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5th Circuit finds the ban on direct interstate sale of handguns unconstitutional.

It's hard to see how the wife in this scenario wouldn't be the importer:

27585.

(a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that the person purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015
there are exceptions to the law:

27585. (a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that the person purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015, from outside of this state unless the person first has that firearm delivered to a dealer in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.



(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to or affect any of the following:


(14) The importation, transportation, or bringing of a firearm into the state by a person who meets any of the following criteria:

(A) The person is listed in the registry set forth in Section 11106 as the owner of the firearm.
 
It's hard to see how the wife in this scenario wouldn't be the importer:

27585.

(a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that the person purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015
They are relying on (14)(A)


(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to or affect any of the following:

...

(14) The importation, transportation, or bringing of a firearm into the state by a person who meets any of the following criteria:

(A) The person is listed in the registry set forth in Section 11106 as the owner of the firearm.

So I think the theory grants the fact that the wife would be the importer but she would be exempt from the 27585 if she becomes the owner before the gun enters california and she submits the form on CFARS.
 
If both you and your spouse are CA residents, the Texas dealer will not sell to an outside state resident.

I left the same comment on that reddit thread. I wonder how many down votes I'll get.
There's no reason they legally can't now because of this court ruling. That's literally the point dude
 
Another thing is that you can import if complying with section 27560, the section on personal import of firearms generally https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-27560/

In theory as long as you register within 60 days you’d be compliant. I wouldn’t do this though since they ask “Date of acquisition” and this seems likely to raise issues. If you spousal transfer you can list the date of acquisition as the date you gave it to your spouse without perjuring yourself.

There’s also always the pawn shop trick (pawn and then reclaim) to get a gun DROSed in your name. As far as I can tell, once it’s registered under your name you are golden.
 
It's hard to see how the wife in this scenario wouldn't be the importer:

27585.

(a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that the person purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015
yes but that's why it's crazy

Does not apply to:
(14) The importation, transportation, or bringing of a firearm into the state by a person who meets any of the following criteria:

(A) The person is listed in the registry set forth in Section 11106 as the owner of the firearm.

PC § 27585(a) is the rule requiring a California resident who acquires a firearm outside California to route it through a California dealer before bringing it back. But subsection (b)(14) expressly says that rule “does not apply” when the person bringing the firearm into California is already listed in the § 11106 registry as its owner. The statute separately recognizes DOJ documentation, a DROS showing ownership, or even a California carry license listing that handgun as alternative ways to satisfy (14). LegiInfo

And § 11106 confirms that DOJ's registry is built from DROS records plus various reports submitted under California firearm statutes, including operation-of-law and intrafamilial reports. LegiInfo

So, stripped down:

If you are already listed in AFS/§11106 as the owner of that exact firearm before you bring it into California, §27585(a) does not apply to that importation. That is what the statute says. LegiInfo

The real legal bottleneck therefore isn't §27585 anymore. It's: how do you lawfully get yourself listed as the owner while the firearm is still outside California?

That is why the spouse theory is interesting. California specifically treats a transmutation of firearm ownership between spouses under Family Code §850 as taking title “by operation of law,” and §27920 provides a DOJ reporting mechanism for those operation-of-law acquisitions. LegiInfo Once DOJ actually processes that report, §11106 says those reports become part of the registry. LegiInfo

That produces a statutory sequence that is difficult to dismiss:

lawful out-of-state acquisition → lawful operation-of-law transfer → DOJ report → recipient listed in AFS as owner → §27585(b)(14)(A) → California's §27585 import requirement no longer applies.

The caveat is exactly what §27585(c) says: the section is cumulative and doesn't override other laws. LegiInfo So satisfying (b)(14)(A) doesn't magically erase assault-weapon restrictions, prohibited-person laws, federal law, etc.

And federal law remains the awkward part. The text of 18 USC §922(a)(3) still says a nonlicensee generally may not transport into their state of residence a firearm they obtained outside that state. Legal Information Institute The new Fifth Circuit decision attacks that prohibition, but how that ruling is applied to a California resident physically bringing the gun into Ninth Circuit territory is exactly where I would want a firearms attorney or subsequent court guidance before treating the route as settled.

But strictly on your quoted California provision: yes, you're reading it correctly. If AFS already shows you as the owner, §27585 itself gives you an express importation exception. That's a much more consequential provision in light of yesterday's ruling than it was 48 hours ago.
 
Another thing is that you can import if complying with section 27560, the section on personal import of firearms generally https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-27560/

In theory as long as you register within 60 days you’d be compliant. I wouldn’t do this though since they ask “Date of acquisition” and this seems likely to raise issues. If you spousal transfer you can list the date of acquisition as the date you gave it to your spouse without perjuring yourself.

There’s also always the pawn shop trick (pawn and then reclaim) to get a gun DROSed in your name. As far as I can tell, once it’s registered under your name you are golden.
Pawning an off roster gun you bought out of state otherwise legally, then re-claiming it via the pawn shop seems like the safest way and basically a legal loophole?
 
Pawning an off roster gun you bought out of state otherwise legally, then re-claiming it via the pawn shop seems like the safest way and basically a legal loophole?
I heard that the pawn trick is pretty popular with off roster 2011s as is. But the way they acquired them (not via SSE) is kinda shady / grey area. It basically involves knowing someone who has dual residency in both california and another state. They buy the gun in another state, bring it to california, pawn it, retrieve it from the pawn, then dros it.
 
Pawning an off roster gun you bought out of state otherwise legally, then re-claiming it via the pawn shop seems like the safest way and basically a legal loophole?
its probably the safest and easiest way because you wouldn’t be forced into telling the state when you bought it.

A couple things work in your favor here: California had to carefully design the law so that it’s not a mandatory firearm registry (would likely cause it to die in court), AFS has tons of errors that can throw people in prison if CA were deadly serious about enforcing it (again, it would die in court), and it’s extremely hard to track down a firearm sold in most states, the trail often ends in a face to face cash sale somewhere.
 

Sacramento pawnshop with FFL.. @RustVendor sure would be crazy to pawn and reclaim that PDP Steel Frame Match
idk dude the more I think about it the more I feel like the operation of law path is the only realistic way to do this somewhat legally.

The operation of law path is trying to engineer a way to legally import the gun such that 14(a) applies.

The pawn shop route is admitting that the original importation was illegal and is trying to obfuscate that fact by figuring out how to not report the date of importation.

Both paths technically get you onto AFS. It's just that only one of these complies with 27585 (at least somewhat)
 
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