Question Captured guide rod on a carry .380

[RocketF22]

Hey all. Just picked up a walther pd380 and love it. However im noticing after 3 or 4 shots I get a double load. Could this be a guide rod issue or is there something else im not reading into. My grip is firm and the ammo is good (played with a few brands before I found one that works well). If there's any insight anyone can give me it would be much appreciated. I love the gun and want it as my carry but it needs to feed reliably

 

[Trapper]

Are you experiencing a double feed where two live rounds are stripped from the magazine or a failure to extract where a spent case remains in the chamber and a live round is sent behind it?
For a double feed, I’d check your magazines and mag springs.
For a failure to extract, check your extractor, chamber condition and ammo.
If it’s a new gun, I’d send it back to Walther and let them correct any issues

 

[RocketF22]

Are you experiencing a double feed where two live rounds are stripped from the magazine or a failure to extract where a spent case remains in the chamber and a live round is sent behind it?
For a double feed, I’d check your magazines and mag springs.
For a failure to extract, check your extractor, chamber condition and ammo.
If it’s a new gun, I’d send it back to Walther and let them correct any issues

One round gets loaded in correctly and at the same time a second round is "accepted" into the chamber jamming the gun. It will not fire (thankfully). The slide locks back.

Im not sure if I can actually send it out to walther as im not the original purchaser. I got it in a PPT about a month ago.

It was stated to have about 50 rounds through. I'm using the mags I was given and not the new ones I bought.

The issue sort of started to clear up as I put more rounds through it but it does still happen.

I hope its just mag springs because honestly I dont know how to do anything else . I bought the stainless steel captured guide rod from Galloway precision and it'll get here today but that was just a shot in the dark. I dont know if thats going to do anything except make takedown easier.

I appreciate answering my question. All insight is needed and welcomed. I love the gun and I dont want to go back to looking for another comfortable ccw.

 

[lohssanami]

I don't have the Walther PD380, but I did find someone else reporting double feeds.

https://www.waltherforums.com/threads/my-thoughts-on-the-pd380.133788/

Here's the quote from the link above.

"I DID have some double feeds and jams with the ammunition I was using. (Don’t purchase LAX boxed .380) they jammed and/or did not feed properly. Once I switched to another ammo it was fine!"

Have you tried different ammo?

 

[RocketF22]

I don't have the Walther PD380, but I did find someone else reporting double feeds.

https://www.waltherforums.com/threads/my-thoughts-on-the-pd380.133788/

Here's the quote from the link above.

"I DID have some double feeds and jams with the ammunition I was using. (Don’t purchase LAX boxed .380) they jammed and/or did not feed properly. Once I switched to another ammo it was fine!"

Have you tried different ammo?

Yeah I follow that forum too. I saw that post. I dont use lax ammo for obvious reasons lol. But when I purchased, he sold me 800 rounds of 380. This also happened with HD rounds. I cleaned it a couple days ago (it was flithy) so maybe thats the issue also. I'm going to take it to the range tomorrow to see if the problem persists.

Thanks. I'll post back here with what I find. If it still happens, I'll try to take video or a few pics of whats happening.

 

[ikeo1]

It’s always better to diagnose video over text. You could be limp wristing if your grip softens. I usually go softer recoil to about 15 lb stock is usually over sprung


Also what ammo and grain are you using? Might want to buy a different brand too. Just because you found it for one doesn’t mean it’s best for another.

 

[RocketF22]

It’s always better to diagnose video over text. You could be limp wristing if your grip softens. I usually go softer recoil to about 15 lb stock is usually over sprung


Also what ammo and grain are you using? Might want to buy a different brand too. Just because you found it for one doesn’t mean it’s best for another.

This is my first and only .380 so I'm using what I was given. Honestly speaking though, I've never heard of the brand but I have like 800 rounds. I tried some different HD rounds at the range. Hornady, the brass was getting shaved so I stopped, sig was getting stuck. I found one that seems to work for HD but for range use I think I need to try other ammo.

I thought I may have been limp wristing as well when I was at the range last so I corrected my grip and it still happened. Also the guide rod I bought is the same stiffness as factory just stainless instead of polymer. I can't find any other company that makes ANYTHING for this gun lol. I'll go to the range this afternoon and see if I can grab some pics/video of the issue.

I also just cleaned the gun a couple days ago. It was nasty. None of my other guns (used purchases) were this dirty so I'm kinda hoping that was the issue too. Will update this evening. Thanks everyone who's giving me ideas to try. I'm not new to firearms or shooting, but I am new to doing anything to the internals so any help there is appreciated.

 

[RocketF22]

It’s always better to diagnose video over text. You could be limp wristing if your grip softens. I usually go softer recoil to about 15 lb stock is usually over sprung


Also what ammo and grain are you using? Might want to buy a different brand too. Just because you found it for one doesn’t mean it’s best for another.

Checking my ammo, my range ammo is a company named "MAXX-Tach", unsure of the grain (I dont have the boxes) but I think 85gr.

The ones pictured are HD rounds that didnt work well. The left is sig and the right is G9? Or G7?