Discount Shoppers

[Darqhelmet]

Do you guys believe it when they say "only X rounds fired"? I'm astonished by how many guns have so few rounds fired, especially the ones with lots of mods

easy enough to get a rough guess looking at the firearm how it’s been maintained. especially low round count stuff. I have a VP9 that has some holster wear, but the barrel is almost brand new. you can see that by looking at it with the slide locked or shining a light down the bore.

 

[tedster]

Do you guys believe it when they say "only X rounds fired"? I'm astonished by how many guns have so few rounds fired, especially the ones with lots of mods

We live in a time with more guns then shooters can actually shoot them. 250 or 500 rnds doesn't make a difference on a good gun. Esp. with jacketed bullets. Just run a bore snake or brush after each shooting session and clean the rest off and it's fine.
I have seen rifle bores where no visible rifling was left anymore, indicating a few thousand rounds shot. In the right hands, not even a scratch on the finish.
But, those days are long gone. Competitive shooters change their barrels very frequently.

Most of what we see through forums like this, are consumer guns. They are being bought, tried and sold again.
A former boss was a shooter. When I asked him what he was shooting: "Oh, just my old Colt Gold Cup .45".
A neighbor of a friend has a garage full of guns. Even though he is LE, there isn't a chance that any of those will accumulate excessive amounts of rounds through the barrel.

Gotta play it by ear, but most situations it's not hard to tell. A bore light will reveal most anything.

 

[weaverftw]

Do you guys believe it when they say "only X rounds fired"? I'm astonished by how many guns have so few rounds fired, especially the ones with lots of mods

I tend to believe the round counts. Most people don’t shoot their guns very much. The g34 I just bought said 500rds I think, and I would bet there were only 200 put through it based on the zero wear I saw on the barrel and the noise the slide made

 

[paintballdad]

Itrust a retail shop I dont trust a stranger. WCOuld be reloads could be amm oswpa who knows

A bit if a stretch don't you think? I'm doubtful anyone is going to the trouble of sorting through thousands of used brass to match the headstamps to the factory boxes, process the brass to like new appearance, reload and sell them as new in 500 round lots each month.
A lot of wasted time and effort for what little profit that can be gained, if any at all.

 

[-D.M.-]

For whatever it's worth, I'll always ask, respectfully, if there's wiggle room in the asking price. If the answer is "no", the answer is "no" and I'll make my decision based on the listed price. Because that's the worst that can happen, the seller says "no" and we move forward.

However... If it says "no offers" or "price is firm", or some such, I won't bother the seller by asking. It's pretty foolish and /or insulting to assume those statements apply to everyone else but you.

 

[grandpapeepap]

For whatever it's worth, I'll always ask, respectfully, if there's wiggle room in the asking price. If the answer is "no", the answer is "no" and I'll make my decision based on the listed price. Because that's the worst that can happen, the seller says "no" and we move forward.

However... If it says "no offers" or "price is firm", or some such, I won't bother the seller by asking. It's pretty foolish and /or insulting to assume those statements apply to everyone else but you.

its like asking someone out, all the can say is no

 

[weaverftw]

For whatever it's worth, I'll always ask, respectfully, if there's wiggle room in the asking price. If the answer is "no", the answer is "no" and I'll make my decision based on the listed price. Because that's the worst that can happen, the seller says "no" and we move forward.

However... If it says "no offers" or "price is firm", or some such, I won't bother the seller by asking. It's pretty foolish and /or insulting to assume those statements apply to everyone else but you.

From a sellers perspective, I would prefer you just make an offer at the lower price you’re willing to pay, assuming it’s reasonable and not 50% off my ask. If I’m open to offers, I’ll entertain it or counter in the middle. If not, I’ll just say the price is firm. If you just ask me “are you flexible” or “is there wiggle room” it feels like you’re asking me to negotiate against myself. If you say “you willing to take $900?” on a $1000 listing it conveys the same intent but gives me an offer to accept or counter. Just my .02

 

[JackRydden224]

If I want something I’ll just offer what I want to pay for it and then go from there. I buy and sell here. I’m not worried about hurting the seller’s feelings because that’s just part of the whole process of selling. When I see a lowball offer I just ignore and move on.

I don’t see the point of asking if the seller is accepting offers. Send what you want to offer and find out. I do ignore every single “what’s the lowest you’ll take” message.

I sold a gun within 24 hrs recently because I want to sell and not sit on it for 3 months for $100 more. Like someone said $920 today is better than $1000 in 3 months

 

[-D.M.-]

From a sellers perspective, I would prefer you just make an offer at the lower price you’re willing to pay, assuming it’s reasonable and not 50% off my ask. If I’m open to offers, I’ll entertain it or counter in the middle. If not, I’ll just say the price is firm. If you just ask me “are you flexible” or “is there wiggle room” it feels like you’re asking me to negotiate against myself. If you say “you willing to take $900?” on a $1000 listing it conveys the same intent but gives me an offer to accept or counter. Just my .02

FWIW, my ask if the answer is yes would immediately include my offer with the caveat that I'm open to a counter-offer if my initial request is too low. I don't expect a seller to essentially bid against himself. Chances are, if I'm asking, I'm probably not the only fella who's taken an interest.

But I can see how some sellers would assume I'm asking for more than a binary response, and I'll incorporate your thinking into my future "negotiations". Appreciate the perspective.