A Featureless Grip I can almost tolerate

[Pewpewwagon]

You can grip and shoot a fin grip with one hand if the fin grip has a thumb shelf.

Do it on an AK.

 

[Jimi Jah]

But why would you even want to shoot a rifle with one hand?

Because I have a 1911 in my left hand.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

Because I have a 1911 in my left hand.

So you want to shoot two guns at the same time? I understand maybe needing to hold two guns in each hand but not shooting two at the same time. Just doesn't seem practical at all. You watch too many movies. Even with a fin grip you could still hold and shoot and AR with one hand about as accurately as an AR with a standard grip. So I don't think your argument holds any water. Even a standard AR wasn't designed to be used primarily one-handed, why does it have a stock then?

 

[Eldoman]

Here is my featureless grip. Looks much better than yours!

 

[AR15barrels]

Do it on an AK.

All my AK's are fully featured RAWs so I don't have a featureless AK to test that but I am sure it would work as well.

 

[Pewpewwagon]

It would work, just not well.

 

[KingRansom]

I get the fin grip looks better. I prefer a sparrow or juggernaut grip.

+1 for the JT featureless grip. I have them on all of my rifles and the nice thing about it is the angle of the grip still allows you to get your hand up high enough in the bottom receiver without pinching it up on the stock or the buffer tube

 

[KingRansom]

But why would you even want to shoot a rifle with one hand?

In life or death situation it may have nothing to do with want and everything to do with having to. Firearms whether it's pistols or rifles should operate the way the manufacturer intended them to. That includes manipulating the safety and being able to drop the magazine. That's critical to firearm safety but California doesn't care too much about that

 

[Pewpewwagon]

JT grips are good. Sparrow has castle nuts and end plates made for their grips and they are good.

 

[Ktm45]

I have tried most of the grip choices on my ar 9 and without a doubt I like a Strike industries simple fin grip with a AK Thumb Grip in short curved. I just had to use a safety that has an adjustable lever position . I run the sparrow safety system on all my ar based PCCs. That safety drum is really really smooth and works well on Hyperfire triggers. Using a fin is not bad with the AK thumb grip. One handed table pickups is zero issue. A side charging unit works best for me. Check out akthumbgrips.com. They are steel with a rubber cover . I have zero idea how the AK version works …as I don’t have an AK. If I moved out of CA I pull the fins off at the border but I do live here so I just deal with the grip.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

In life or death situation it may have nothing to do with want and everything to do with having to. Firearms whether it's pistols or rifles should operate the way the manufacturer intended them to. That includes manipulating the safety and being able to drop the magazine. That's critical to firearm safety but California doesn't care too much about that

I just highly doubt I will ever be in a life-or-death situation where I have to shoot two guns in each hand exactly at the same time. Just seems highly unlikely.

BTW, a featureless grip allows you to have a standard safety release. Also, an ambi safety selector can be used with a featureless grip.

 

[KingRansom]

I just highly doubt I will ever be in a life-or-death situation where I have to shoot two guns in each hand exactly at the same time. Just seems highly unlikely.

Lol, I totally understand what you're saying but at the same time somebody is going to be cashing in a billion dollar Powerball ticket. I bet they thought that'd never happen either.

 

[arm3drv]

Indeed one of the better looking fin grips out there …..decided to keep my M5 builds & kept them “featureless” since both my AR Pistols have to be in fixed mag configurations…..AR Pistols are less of an “eye sore” for sure although I get to play around with parts and accessories more with Featureless since I’m always trying to find ways to make it look less ugly Ya’ll be safe as always

 

[AR15barrels]

It would work, just not well.

In reality though, NO rifle is good to shoot one handed, regardless of it having a pistol grip or a rifle type grip.
ALL rifles are better to shoot 2 handed as they are designed.

 

[jhsd20]

I get the fin grip looks better. I prefer a sparrow or juggernaut grip.

I actually functionally prefer the fin grip over the sparrow. I have wrist pains after shooting the sparrow for a while unless I chicken wing it, which I don't like because it makes it more difficult to shoot on the move in tighter courses of fire. I don't notice this on an actual rifle stock such as the Ruger PC9, maybe because the hand position is higher.

I use a larger ambi safety to rest my thumb on a fin grip and this provides a decent purchase. I've shot USPSA classifiers that require "strong hand only" one-handed with a fin gripped PCC (because i don't care about classification) and it's worked decently. This may change as I get older and lose grip strength.

 

[Hit Factor]

I actually functionally prefer the fin grip over the sparrow. I have wrist pains after shooting the sparrow for a while unless I chicken wing it, which I don't like because it makes it more difficult to shoot on the move in tighter courses of fire. I don't notice this on an actual rifle stock such as the Ruger PC9, maybe because the hand position is higher.

I use a larger ambi safety to rest my thumb on a fin grip and this provides a decent purchase. I've shot USPSA classifiers that require "strong hand only" one-handed with a fin gripped PCC (because i don't care about classification) and it's worked decently. This may change as I get older and lose grip strength.

Strong hand only for PCC means two hands on the gun, shooting from the strong side shoulder — no different from freestyle. I’m surprised that no one on your squads have known this, including the R.O.s, and have allowed you to think you had to shoot your PCC with only one hand on these types of classifiers.

 

[jhsd20]

Strong hand only for PCC means two hands on the gun, shooting from the strong side shoulder — no different from freestyle. I’m surprised that no one on your squads have known this, including the R.O.s, and have allowed you to think you had to shoot your PCC with only one hand on these types of classifiers.

I know. I intentionally shot it one hand and informed the RO I would be doing so, in part to be funny and in part to see if it was possible.

All the pistol guys were having PCC envy over how they didn't have a one handed string... challenge accepted.

 

[Pewpewwagon]

In reality though, NO rifle is good to shoot one handed, regardless of it having a pistol grip or a rifle type grip.
ALL rifles are better to shoot 2 handed as they are designed.

Pistols too but we should practice one handed target shooting . AR’s are also better with its original style grip.

 

[NATEWA]

You can build an AR 22 and make it look normal.

Or an ar 17 hmr. Fun little round.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

AR’s are also better with its original style grip.

Thanks captain obvious. No one is debating that a standard pistol grip on an AR is optimal. What people are saying is that shooting a longgun, any longgun, one handed is not optimal, pistol grip or not, and is also not necessary, and no longgun has ever been designed to shoot one handed with the "trigger" hand holding and pointing the firearm without the use of a rest or the stock against the torso. To fantasize about how it could be necessary in a life or death scenario and therefore an AR with a fin grip is a deal breaker, is absolute nonsense. We arent talking about pistols, PDWs or SMGs. Im defining a longgun as a firearm with a stock and at least a 16" barrel.

And if you consider real life use cases, even Kyle Rittenhouse was able to defend himself with both hands on his AR while in a highly compromised position. He also had a sling. It does not appear that he needed to point and shoot his AR with only the use of his "trigger" hand. I cant believe its even necessary to point this out so explicitly. Do people really believe a fingripped AR is unuseable because it cant be pointed and shot onehanded so as to be able to simultaneously shoot another gun in the other hand or you might be killed in a life or death situation, because you never know, you could win the powerball? Its assinine.