ammo

[Mdeboda]

https://www.academy.com/p/blazer-br...rain-centerfire-pistol-ammunition?sku=115-9mm idk

last I paid all in out the door was about $0.28

Do you live outside of California? The site states that they don’t ship to California. Is there an exception for FFL03-COE holders?

 

[Bobalover209]

If the amount per hour reloaders factor in for their time is $75 (pick your number), what's the real savings by reloading?

There certainly can be some cost savings with enough volume and with more obscure/larger calibers. Some people don't mind the time and effort as it can be therapeutic, fun, relaxing, etc.

The biggest advantage is total control that can further increase your potential if accuracy is the top priority.

For most shooters, especially for 9mm with a ffl03/COE, the time needed and initial large investment doesn't make as much sense to switch to a reloading set up unless it's for the long haul.

 

[Bobalover209]

Depends on round and volume. For me it was ~3 years at 12k rounds / year. Covid pricing was higher so it was easier. Dillons are cheaper so it’ll be faster too. Plus they hold their value. I sold mine for 75% of the cost

If I had the space I would invest in a reloading set up, unfortunately I don't even have the space to store used brass. How much were you able to reload 9mm for?

 

[Gawernator]

Do you live outside of California? The site states that they don’t ship to California. Is there an exception for FFL03-COE holders?

No. Wouldn’t know, I get my ammo through a different vendor

 

[ikeo1]

If I had the space I would invest in a reloading set up, unfortunately I don't even have the space to store used brass. How much were you able to reload 9mm for?

It's different now because powder is expensive.. All inputs are now higher than they used to be.

case - free to $0.04 once fired brass
$0.06-.09 projectile
$0.05-.07 primer
$0.02-.04 powder

So at the low end .14c but prices have moved up to now $0.22 ish. When 9mm ammo is cheap it's not worth it, but the reloading smooths out these price fluctuations and also more consistent. If you're a high volume person, then you like the consistency. If you're low volume ~500 / mo 6k a year or two just buying bulk when it's cheap is probably better.

Avg is about $.18c but now i've moved off and sold my stuff and just get it through Masterclass Ammunitions since I've been shooting a lot less and sold off my equipment. They're $0.30c but I don't shoot at the volume anymore and they're USPSA certified.

 

[Bobalover209]

It's different now because powder is expensive.. All inputs are now higher than they used to be.

case - free to $0.04 once fired brass
$0.06-.09 projectile
$0.05-.07 primer
$0.02-.04

So at the low end .14c but prices have moved up to now $0.22 ish. When 9mm ammo is cheap it's not worth it, but the reloading smooths out these price fluctuations and also more consistent. If you're a high volume person, then you like the consistency. If you're low volume ~500 / mo 6k a year or two just buying bulk when it's cheap is probably better.

Avg is about $.18c but now i've moved off and sold my stuff and just get it through Masterclass Ammunitions since I've been shooting a lot less and sold off my equipment. They're $0.30c but I don't shoot at the volume anymore and their USPSA certified.

I see, thank you for the breakdown. Thankfully I stocked up enough for a while when I got 9mm for 22 cpr, so based on your math you're right in that it doesn't make much sense to reload just for range use.

Hoping we see ammo prices go back down, but my feeling is that they won't drop for 2 years minimum, and certainly won't go back to the low prices we were used to for at least 5 years.

I've started shooting less 9mm to extend my supply while shooting more .22lr which is still relatively affordable despite ~20-30% increase. Conversion kits are great training tools that don't break the bank.

 

[NorCalBusa]

With commonly found equipment, how many rounds can you typically reload in one hour's time (Start @ opening door/turning the light on - to Finish light off/door closed/cleanup done)?

 

[ikeo1]

With commonly found equipment, how many rounds can you typically reload in one hour's time (Start @ opening door/turning the light on - to Finish light off/door closed/cleanup done)?

Depends on what you get.. I'd always recommend a progressive press over single state but if you're rifle single stage is nice. Progressive is more versatile.

Dillon 750XL is where i started and again holds resale well and is a tank.

With this setup you can get 200-400 depending on how well you're dialed in and your physical capability. On my mark vii I'm at 1000-1300/hr comfortably.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CAguns/comments/1c2rljs/automated_reloading_with_markvii

 

[BCar777]

Depends on what you get.. I'd always recommend a progressive press over single state but if you're rifle single stage is nice. Progressive is more versatile.

Dillon 750XL is where i started and again holds resale well and is a tank.

With this setup you can get 200-400 depending on how well you're dialed in and your physical capability. On my mark vii I'm at 1000-1300/hr comfortably.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CAguns/comments/1c2rljs/automated_reloading_with_markvii

Wow! This is full on ! I pictured a guy hand labor/workbench manual slaving away

 

[ikeo1]

I will add if you shoot PRC or any large rifle round the ROI is much better and it pays itself off a lot faster especially with .308.. 9mm its a volume play but rifles are lower, but there's always risks that you end up playing with. Reloading is its own hobby, IMO. Being an engineer it's was a natural fit. I enjoyed the reloading and process more than the actual shooting.

So it's not for the faint of heart, and there's a real risk for increasing lead levels too.. It's just the nature of it, which is also a reason I got decided to just buy.

Wow! This is full on ! I pictured a guy hand labor/workbench manual slaving away

 

[weaverftw]

There certainly can be some cost savings with enough volume and with more obscure/larger calibers. Some people don't mind the time and effort as it can be therapeutic, fun, relaxing, etc.

The biggest advantage is total control that can further increase your potential if accuracy is the top priority.

For most shooters, especially for 9mm with a ffl03/COE, the time needed and initial large investment doesn't make as much sense to switch to a reloading set up unless it's for the long haul.

Yeah for me, I don’t really leverage my time outside of work to make money… I like my leisure time and I am finding reloading to be very meditative and relaxing. Throw on a podcast/video/audiobook and pump out 9mm on a single stage LOL I have no illusions about saving a ton of money, it’s just fun and I get to shoot 130pf 147s that feel like shooting .22lr out of my CZs…

 

[ikeo1]

I have no illusions about saving a ton of money

Any reloader will tell you, you don't really save money.. You shoot more..

 

[Hgray81]

Mark7 is great. Once you have it dialed in it's smooth and very quick.

 

[Hgray81]

Any reloader will tell you, you don't really save money.. You shoot more..

And you can dial in what you are looking for with PF and your gear prefers.

 

[Hit Factor]

If the amount per hour reloaders factor in for their time is $75 (pick your number), what's the real savings by reloading?

Honestly, it’s not about saving money. It’s about customizing your loads for specific guns and specific purposes.

And being able to load up buckets of ammo whenever you feel like it without dealing with California’s asinine excise taxes and system of repetitive background checks is pretty nice, too.

 

[psun786]

If the amount per hour reloaders factor in for their time is $75 (pick your number), what's the real savings by reloading?

It makes more sense once you get into big-bore or less common calibers. For example, the cheapest .45-70 Government on TSUSA is about $2.30 per round after the membership discount. By comparison, it costs me roughly $0.50–$1.01 per round to handload ($0.51 brass + $0.20 for a 300gr bullet + $0.30 for powder).

At a loading rate of around 300 rounds per hour, that works out to savings of approximately $387–$540 (new brass vs reload) per hour.

 

[Gawernator]

Depends on what you get.. I'd always recommend a progressive press over single state but if you're rifle single stage is nice. Progressive is more versatile.

Dillon 750XL is where i started and again holds resale well and is a tank.

With this setup you can get 200-400 depending on how well you're dialed in and your physical capability. On my mark vii I'm at 1000-1300/hr comfortably.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CAguns/comments/1c2rljs/automated_reloading_with_markvii

wow you're high speed

 

[ikeo1]

wow you're high speed

Can you see why I roll my eyes when people are sure I’m an anti-2a dude? Like bro, you really have no clue… after I setup all that, I built this site from scratch. People in my crew take it up a notch too. She has a new home, with someone who will crank out more rounds

 

[weaverftw]

Depends on what you get.. I'd always recommend a progressive press over single state but if you're rifle single stage is nice. Progressive is more versatile.

Dillon 750XL is where i started and again holds resale well and is a tank.

With this setup you can get 200-400 depending on how well you're dialed in and your physical capability. On my mark vii I'm at 1000-1300/hr comfortably.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CAguns/comments/1c2rljs/automated_reloading_with_markvii

I just came

 

[AR15barrels]

If the amount per hour reloaders factor in for their time is $75 (pick your number), what's the real savings by reloading?

Use the same hourly $ amount that you get paid to do any other hobbies or even while you are just lounging on the couch watching TV.
That's the exact value of your free time.

If your only justification is to save money, then reloading is not for you.
You should simply take all that money that you get paid watching TV and buy your ammo.

If your interest is in customizing your ammo to best suit your specific guns and possibly shooting a lot more for relatively the same cost, then reloading is probably for you but only if you are willing to buy components in large quantities when they are cheap and store them for use in times they are too expensive.