Any practical reason to have a .308/7.62 X 51?

[Tere_Hanges]

Well… don’t hate me. lol.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1209593277

That's a great deal with the optic mount and bipod. Looks like it's in excellent condition.

 

[ButteFlyFisher]

Biggest issue with GunBroker is I never see anything for a good deal. Also most sellers charge 3 percent credit card fee and you pay the normal 20% taxes at the end plus your 50-100 dollar transfer fee.

Whew… my wallet is safe.

 

[RustVendor]

Whew… my wallet is safe.

....for now haha

 

[chiroken007]

Nothing compared to PPT so I always favor searching CAGUNS! But when I can’t get it here, I can often find a decent deal on GunBroker when you are patient.

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Buy a used M1A and save some cash. I have a Scout and a National Match. I got both of them used. New M1A's are ridiculously overpriced. My NM has iron sights. The Scout has a Burris 1-6x illuminated optic.

An AR is much better for using an optic. I have a 16" M&P10 and a 20" Aero M5 with 3-9x and 4-12x optics, respectively. If you go the AR route, just buy a complete rifle or at least a complete upper. Everyone I know who has tried to build a 308 AR upper from a stripped receiver has had problems.

You can now add one person to that list that hasn't had any

 

[Ryan Gosling]

Biggest issue with GunBroker is I never see anything for a good deal. Also most sellers charge 3 percent credit card fee and you pay the normal 20% taxes at the end plus your 50-100 dollar transfer fee.

Gunbroker is often the only place to find certain firearms, unfortunately this the land of the fee so no way around the tax and transfer. it can have great deals, you just have to be patient and get lucky. Most of the sellers ive bought from on there prefer an outside payment method to skip the fee.

 

[RustVendor]

Gunbroker is often the only place to find certain firearms, unfortunately this the land of the fee so no way around the tax and transfer. it can have great deals, you just have to be patient and get lucky. Most of the sellers ive bought from on there prefer an outside payment method to skip the fee.

Well ppt avoids the 20% plus transfer fee but yes if you are looking for something rare that you just gotta have there's more selection for sure.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

You can now add one person to that list that hasn't had any

Cool story. So I take it you recommend people build their own 308 ARs? It's no different than an AR15? Just buy the parts and put them together? What did you build, and what parts did you use?

I have no doubt some people get "lucky" building a 308 AR. But most people have some kind of issue, usually with the gas pressure or BCG. I've seen experienced, knowledgeable people have issues with various parts. There is just a lot of variance with 308 parts.

I built an Aero M5 without any issues. But I got the complete upper with BCG. That's as far as I recommend people go. Unless they like messing with parts like measuring the gas port and determining the correct diameter for their barrel and trying different gas blocks, buffers, buffer springs and bolts. It can be a real pain trying to troubleshoot a 308 AR that doesn't run. And it is a common issue for people who try to build an upper from a stripped receiver.

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Cool story. So I take it you recommend people build their own 308 ARs? It's no different than an AR15? Just buy the parts and put them together? What did you build, and what parts did you use?

I have no doubt some people get "lucky" building a 308 AR. But most people have some kind of issue, usually with the gas pressure or BCG. I've seen experienced, knowledgeable people have issues with various parts. There is just a lot of variance with 308 parts.

I built an Aero M5 without any issues. But I got the complete upper with BCG. That's as far as I recommend people go. Unless they like messing with parts like measuring the gas port and determining the correct diameter for their barrel and trying different gas blocks, buffers, buffer springs and bolts. It can be a real pain trying to troubleshoot a 308 AR that doesn't run. And it is a common issue for people who try to build an upper from a stripped receiver.

I always recommend people build their ARs. They learn so much more about their rifle and gain experience needed to repair and maintain their own rifles. Wether that be a 15 or a 10/308

I used an ADR tactical matching upper and lower. It was in raw or un-anodized as they didn't have any anodized in stock. It was the SR25 style but the only difference I see is the rear angel to the threaded receiver for the buffer tube. The SR25 is angled while the DPMS style is rounded. Everything else appears to the same with their upper/lower. Barrel nut and everything else appears to be a DPMS style.

I used a Faxon pencil barrel because I don't need it to be a tack driver nor do I need it for sustained rapid fire. It was more of "how hard can it be" or "is it really as hard as they say" build to test my skills after doing a few 15's.

I did some anodizing myself in a bucket with sulfuric acid inside another bucket of ice to keep the anodizing cool. They initially came out gold color which indicates they where indeed 7075 as the listing said. But for some reason the color has faded back to a silver or aluminum color.

I used a lightweight bolt carrier, empty buffer along with an adjustable gas block.

Didn't take many rounds to get the glas block dialed in so it reliably cycled and locked back on last round. I've only put a few hundred rounds through it so far because the cost of ammo. But it's been trouble free so far and the recoil with the lightweight parts is minimal. Definitely less then my bolt gun that weights considerably more.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

I always recommend people build their ARs. They learn so much more about their rifle and gain experience needed to repair and maintain their own rifles. Wether that be a 15 or a 10/308

I used an ADR tactical matching upper and lower. It was in raw or un-anodized as they didn't have any anodized in stock. It was the SR25 style but the only difference I see is the rear angel to the threaded receiver for the buffer tube. The SR25 is angled while the DPMS style is rounded. Everything else appears to the same with their upper/lower. Barrel nut and everything else appears to be a DPMS style.

I used a Faxon pencil barrel because I don't need it to be a tack driver nor do I need it for sustained rapid fire. It was more of "how hard can it be" or "is it really as hard as they say" build to test my skills after doing a few 15's.

I did some anodizing myself in a bucket with sulfuric acid inside another bucket of ice to keep the anodizing cool. They initially came out gold color which indicates they where indeed 7075 as the listing said. But for some reason the color has faded back to a silver or aluminum color.

I used a lightweight bolt carrier, empty buffer along with an adjustable gas block.

Didn't take many rounds to get the glas block dialed in so it reliably cycled and locked back on last round. I've only put a few hundred rounds through it so far because the cost of ammo. But it's been trouble free so far and the recoil with the lightweight parts is minimal. Definitely less then my bolt gun that weights considerably more.

I recommend that people build their own lowers. But for uppers, it's not really worth it unless you are going for a precision rifle build or a very specific look. For sure, AR-15 uppers are pretty straightforward. But 308AR uppers can have problems. Most people have problems with their 308AR builds when they attempt to build their own upper from parts. Looks like you got lucky with your build, but I don't think you should recommend that most people try building a 308AR based on your personal experience, which isn't the norm.

 

[Hamburger Monster]

I recommend that people build their own lowers. But for uppers, it's not really worth it unless you are going for a precision rifle build or a very specific look. For sure, AR-15 uppers are pretty straightforward. But 308AR uppers can have problems. Most people have problems with their 308AR builds when they attempt to build their own upper from parts. Looks like you got lucky with your build, but I don't think you should recommend that most people try building a 308AR based on your personal experience, which isn't the norm.

I actually think most don't even try because people like you discourage them.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

I actually think most don't even try because people like you discourage them.

Haha, ok dude, don't be all butthurt and make the mods have to delete a bunch of unnecessary back-and-forth posts. I've already posted that I recommend everyone build their own lowers, AR15s or 308ARs. It's just not very practical to build an upper unless you want a very specific barrel and/or handguard. Especially when AR15 uppers of almost any configuration are so affordable. And, again, self-built 308AR uppers often have issues that can be tricky to troubleshoot. I only recommend buying a complete rifle or barreled upper for 308 ARs, not AR15s. But nice straw man.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

.308 is about as practical as any other rifle round. Shoot what you enjoy.