Any Shooting Ranges that let you mag dump?

[NorCalBusa]

It's not harmless, it's disturbing to others trying to shoot. Especially 223 at an indoor range, it's so loud and obnoxious on top of being completely pointless. Again, if you are going a specific drill like a bill drill I get it, otherwise you aren't getting better and you aren't respectful of others at the range.

They paid their money just like you. Unless there's something on the sign-in form disallowing something, to each their own. Could be the guy doesn't like your pace of firing or that you're left handed or fill-in-the-blank- you gonna sit down? Of course not. Worry about stuff that matters, there's plenty of that to be had.

 

[wtf_calguns_migration]

It's not harmless, it's disturbing to others trying to shoot. Especially 223 at an indoor range, it's so loud and obnoxious on top of being completely pointless. Again, if you are going a specific drill like a bill drill I get it, otherwise you aren't getting better and you aren't respectful of others at the range.

What indoor is allowing full power centerfire rifle ammo?
Im used to them requiring powder puff range rounds so rifle shooters arent beating up the backstops and bullet traps.

 

[RustVendor]

What indoor is allowing full power centerfire rifle ammo?
Im used to them requiring powder puff range rounds so rifle shooters arent beating up the backstops and bullet traps.

The Gun Range in North Highlands, last time I was there there was a dingus "sighting in" his AR on the 25 yard side next to me.... I get it, explosions are fun but go up to some national forest land and you can shoot a tree stump or something

 

[RustVendor]

They paid their money just like you. Unless there's something on the sign-in form disallowing something, to each their own. Could be the guy doesn't like your pace of firing or that you're left handed or fill-in-the-blank- you gonna sit down? Of course not. Worry about stuff that matters, there's plenty of that to be had.

I honestly don't understand half this sentence, but I'll worry about what I will worry about, so don't worry about it.

 

[Chattypath747]

Looking for a shooting range or land that lets you mag dump.

Bay Area
Sacramento
Livermore
Pleasanton

will travel reasonable distance

Thanks

If you are willing to take two classes, Reed's Indoor range will let you do holster work and rapid fire.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

It's not harmless, it's disturbing to others trying to shoot. Especially 223 at an indoor range, it's so loud and obnoxious on top of being completely pointless. Again, if you are going a specific drill like a bill drill I get it, otherwise you aren't getting better and you aren't respectful of others at the range.

Yeh, I can see how it can be disturbing to others; especially if they are doing mag dumps after mag dumps.

However, in my opinion (I may be wrong), for a defensive firearm, especially a mag-fed semi-auto, it can be a good idea to test trial, trying to rapid fire to test the reliability of a firearm, the magazine, and ammunition to see if it will malfunction or choke under repetitive load; running a drill at the very least.

I remember seeing a video by t-Rex arms where for a Kimber 1911 where when shooting under repetitive load; it would malfunction. Now, I have only shot someone else’s Kimber 1911, but it was at 1 shot per 3 seconds to hit the bullseye; so I haven’t had that malfunction before or enough experience with a Kimber 1911. I will include the video link at the bottom.

Based on my understanding, as a RSO at a range I frequent for VIP benefits, the one shot per however many seconds interval at some of the ranges are for safety and liability reasons because they know not all shooters are able to handle running a drill or mag dumping due to poor control and accuracy issues which could risk damage to range property; and is also there for people to improve their skills and accuracy by limiting the shots per second. We have a 1 shot per two seconds; general rule. However, we gauge control and accuracy, if they are shooting faster than that, if they are hitting the target, are not all over the place; then generally, I will not mind or say anything about it.

However, in my opinion, for ranges that have a 1 shot per 3-4 seconds rule; that is a little slow. In a defensive scenario, generally, that is not how it would play out.

Video of t-Rex arms Kimber 1911

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

The Gun Range in North Highlands, last time I was there there was a dingus "sighting in" his AR on the 25 yard side next to me.... I get it, explosions are fun but go up to some national forest land and you can shoot a tree stump or something

The gun range is probably not the most ideal place to sight in a rifle; that table isn’t long enough to set up a solid rest. It would be better to go to a location whether it be at an outdoor rifle range or somewhere they can set up on a rest; whether it be sandbags, backpack, a stinger rest, or lead sled.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

If you are willing to take two classes, Reed's Indoor range will let you do holster work and rapid fire.

I think reeds indoor range would be a good place for someone with a shotgun since they are more lenient on usage of shotgun ammunition; they don’t limit customers to only slugs, or at most slugs and then 00 buck. If someone wanted to shoot #4 buck, or non-steel birdshot.

 

[Caliboy94]

Try an outdoor range my local outdoor place don’t care. It’s the indoor ranges that are strict

 

[wtf_calguns_migration]

The Gun Range in North Highlands, last time I was there there was a dingus "sighting in" his AR on the 25 yard side next to me.... I get it, explosions are fun but go up to some national forest land and you can shoot a tree stump or something

I don't get shooting a rifle at an indoor. When I get my zero set, I want to confirm 100/300.

Then I'm making sure my dope is good walking it out on whatever reticle I'm using to 600 minimum.

Note where wind becomes an issue at whatever range and all that.

Indoor I wouldn't be able to get as much work done in one session.

I guess if you have a pile of parts and want to do some gas gun recoil system tuning indoor might be ok. Still, I'd be confirming at whatever distance you were planning on running. An action range would be more appropriate for that.

 

[OpusX]

Yeh, I can see how it can be disturbing to others; especially if they are doing mag dumps after mag dumps.

However, in my opinion (I may be wrong), for a defensive firearm, especially a mag-fed semi-auto, it can be a good idea to test trial, trying to rapid fire to test the reliability of a firearm, the magazine, and ammunition to see if it will malfunction or choke under repetitive load; running a drill at the very least.

I remember seeing a video by t-Rex arms where for a Kimber 1911 where when shooting under repetitive load; it would malfunction. Now, I have only shot someone else’s Kimber 1911, but it was at 1 shot per 3 seconds to hit the bullseye; so I haven’t had that malfunction before or enough experience with a Kimber 1911. I will include the video link at the bottom.

Based on my understanding, as a RSO at a range I frequent for VIP benefits, the one shot per however many seconds interval at some of the ranges are for safety and liability reasons because they know not all shooters are able to handle running a drill or mag dumping due to poor control and accuracy issues which could risk damage to range property; and is also there for people to improve their skills and accuracy by limiting the shots per second. We have a 1 shot per two seconds; general rule. However, we gauge control and accuracy, if they are shooting faster than that, if they are hitting the target, are not all over the place; then generally, I will not mind or say anything about it.

However, in my opinion, for ranges that have a 1 shot per 3-4 seconds rule; that is a little slow. In a defensive scenario, generally, that is not how it would play out.

Video of t-Rex arms Kimber 1911

I own a lot of T.Rex products and like the company overall, but I would also take many things Lucas says and does with a grain of salt. 1911s are basically like AR15s. Obviously there's better manufacturers than others, but in the end they're essentially just the sum of their parts and will all run reliably with the right maintenance and care. There really isn't any problem that can't be corrected fairly easily with minor work / fitment / parts replacement. He could have just had a cheap extractor that was worn down, but with a simple forged replacement would run like a top.

 

[wtf_calguns_migration]

I think reeds indoor range would be a good place for someone with a shotgun since they are more lenient on usage of shotgun ammunition; they don’t limit customers to only slugs, or at most slugs and then 00 buck. If someone wanted to shoot #4 buck, or non-steel birdshot.

That would be useful for tuning a semi. Sadly I think CASC died when Vince got fired from RRGC.

I like wrenching on semi shotguns for a specific purpose. Getting to know that specific gun and whatever tweaks necessary for the loads I need to use is a parts thrash.

Nothing like having a trigger/lifter group completely disassembled on an outdoor whatever. Pulling a gas system or doing recoil/mag spring tuning tube dumping is mandatory in my book.

Dunno how many times I've seen a semi stripped down on a tiny safe table with parts spilling off it.

 

[RustVendor]

I don't get shooting a rifle at an indoor. When I get my zero set, I want to confirm 100/300.

Then I'm making sure my dope is good walking it out on whatever reticle I'm using to 600 minimum.

Note where wind becomes an issue at whatever range and all that.

Indoor I wouldn't be able to get as much work done in one session.

I guess if you have a pile of parts and want to do some gas gun recoil system tuning indoor might be ok. Still, I'd be confirming at whatever distance you were planning on running. An action range would be more appropriate for that.

exactly, there's a 200 yard range about 20 minutes from there and a 300 yard range like 40 minutes. I don't think they are thinking about DOPE and accuracy though, they are just having fun blasting. Which I get, it is fun, but it has a limit...

 

[wtf_calguns_migration]

exactly, there's a 200 yard range about 20 minutes from there and a 300 yard range like 40 minutes. I don't think they are thinking about DOPE and accuracy though, they are just having fun blasting. Which I get, it is fun, but it has a limit...

I get it too. We used to hit ranges in the late 80s thru mid 90s with a days worth of surplus ball.

I think in todays $ we were hideously wasting perfectly good ammo.

There was a limit to mindless blasting. When you pointed out to people back then a $95 SKS, bolt action, battle rifle parts rebuild was ringing full sized ipsc targets out to 600yds easily they'd listen.

The cheap gear and ammo geekery was part of it back then.

Also dudes would let you know about hoser events.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

I own a lot of T.Rex products and like the company overall, but I would also take many things Lucas says and does with a grain of salt. 1911s are basically like AR15s. Obviously there's better manufacturers than others, but in the end they're essentially just the sum of their parts and will all run reliably with the right maintenance and care. There really isn't any problem that can't be corrected fairly easily with minor work / fitment / parts replacement. He could have just had a cheap extractor that was worn down, but with a simple forged replacement would run like a top.

Yeh, that’s true.

Good that you pointed that out. Now I that I think about it; it also could have been a dry gun or needed to be broken in more; might have benefited from oiling.

I was having some occasional stovepipes (primer side hanging on ejection port with neck of cartridge facing out) recently on my first AR-10, aero m5 .308 mid-length gas system build. Did some online scrolling, went back to the range, lubed the Battle Arms Development Nitride BCG wet with Lucas extreme duty gun oil; it was running flawlessly after that. I originally only had Hoppes black grease on it. Another factor could have been a sticky internal for the upper reciever since it’s the FDE cerakote; parts just needed to be broken in more to be mated more along with the factor of tolerance stacking. I’ve heard of freshly cerakoted bolt action rifles being sticky; so it would help to lube the bolt wet to get rid of the stickiness. It’s still over gassed though; with ejection at 12:30 - 1 o’clock. Going to try a heavier buffer weight to see if I can get the ejection pattern more towards 3 o clock.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

That would be useful for tuning a semi. Sadly I think CASC died when Vince got fired from RRGC.

I like wrenching on semi shotguns for a specific purpose. Getting to know that specific gun and whatever tweaks necessary for the loads I need to use is a parts thrash.

Nothing like having a trigger/lifter group completely disassembled on an outdoor whatever. Pulling a gas system or doing recoil/mag spring tuning tube dumping is mandatory in my book.

Dunno how many times I've seen a semi stripped down on a tiny safe table with parts spilling off it.

need to bring a bath towel as a mat and then also a 4 or 6 inch magnetic parts tray.

 

[OpusX]

Yeh, that’s true.

Good that you pointed that out. Now I that I think about it; it also could have been a dry gun or needed to be broken in more; might have benefited from oiling.

I was having some occasional stovepipes (primer side hanging on ejection port with neck of cartridge facing out) recently on my first AR-10, aero m5 .308 mid-length gas system build. Did some online scrolling, went back to the range, lubed the Battle Arms Development Nitride BCG wet with Lucas extreme duty gun oil; it was running flawlessly after that. I originally only had Hoppes black grease on it. Another factor could have been a sticky internal for the upper reciever since it’s the FDE cerakote; parts just needed to be broken in more to be mated more along with the factor of tolerance stacking. I’ve heard of freshly cerakoted bolt action rifles being sticky; so it would help to lube the bolt wet to get rid of the stickiness. It’s still over gassed though; with ejection at 12:30 - 1 o’clock. Going to try a heavier buffer weight to see if I can get the ejection pattern more towards 3 o clock.

A heavier buffer can help mitigate overgassing, but as long as it cycles reliably and the bolt locks back on empty, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Worst case scenario you can always try an adjustable gas block, or just get a blank and have d. wilson cut and port it to spec.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

A heavier buffer can help mitigate overgassing, but as long as it cycles reliably and the bolt locks back on empty, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Worst case scenario you can always try an adjustable gas block, or just get a blank and have d. wilson cut and port it to spec.

I want to say it’s a little too late, but not necessarily too late, to add an adjustable gas block now because I already rocksetted and torqued the surefire socom muzzle brake on there; it’s not that much of a hassle but it can be a hassle, or more work to get it off with needing to soak the muzzle brake in warm water over night to crack it loose.

I’ve been considering doing it though. If I don’t; it would be a good idea too on a future build. What adjustable gas block do you recommend for Ar-10? I’m reading good things about SLR?

D.Wilson?

 

[OpusX]

I want to say it’s a little too late, but not necessarily too late, to add an adjustable gas block now because I already rocksetted and torqued the surefire socom muzzle brake on there; it’s not that much of a hassle but it can be a hassle, or more work to get it off with needing to soak the muzzle brake in warm water over night to crack it loose.

I’ve been considering doing it though. If I don’t; it would be a good idea too on a future build. What adjustable gas block do you recommend for Ar-10? I’m reading good things about SLR?

D.Wilson?

Superlative, Wilson Combat, Riflespeed, all good, but I typically shy away from adjustable on any rifle that's intended for serious use. Another point of failure I'd rather not deal with, which is why I said if it can be mitigated with a better buffer system and still cycles reliably, just leave it alone.

d. wilson manufacturing. If you want custom work or a barrel cut to a particular spec, he's the guy.

 

[Thehyphyboy]

Looking for a shooting range or land that lets you mag dump.

Bay Area
Sacramento
Livermore
Pleasanton

will travel reasonable distance

Thanks

SGR on Routier let’s you mag dump! I tend to only mad dump in the 50 yard. I’ve gotten a couple of looks my way from the older shooters. The RSOs will come take a look but as long as you aren’t being dumb about it, they won’t say anything.