Are micro 9's a trend?

[Gawernator]

it's not really smaller, the grip is longer which matters more than the barrel length because that's the part that prints. . Its only .1 inches narrower than a glock 19. These dimensional changes don't make a practical difference.

Agreed, the difference in thinness I find is basically irrelevant since the holster is part of the bulk to start with and we are talking about fractions of an inch difference. The grip length is what sticks out, which I think is why my shield and P2000SK are almost identical in concealment

 

[Gawernator]

Whether it’s trendy or not to get a micro, micro9s have a niche to fill and do a good job at it.

If carrying full size doesn’t make sense to you, and comfort is a priority micro9 is a good choice . They’ve improved so much over the years that they out compete a snub 38/357 in many use cases.

I still think snubbies still have their use case depending on your priorities, same with small 380s and 22lr, But 9mm is well balanced and cheap. It the current standard making it more attractive than a pocket 380.

The trend of micro9s is imo, steady improvement that bridges 9mm with size and weight options of snub revolvers and smaller calibers with less compromises.

There are many days where I’d rather carry nothing over a full size or compact(G19 size)

Every modern semi auto beats a revolver lol. Revolvers are for nostalgia and those resistant to change

 

[HiMapo]

Every modern semi auto beats a revolver lol. Revolvers are for nostalgia and those resistant to change

If a cartridge doesn’t fire, you just keep pulling the trigger. No troubleshooting feeding issues.

I agree striker fired >> DA Revolver

But some times you don’t want a slide, out of battery, feeding issues, mag release, slide stop, external safety etc. just one button that makes it go bang and it if fails you press it again. if the person using the gun doesn’t train (irresponsible, but they have the right to) a simple DA only revolver will do

 

[HiMapo]

Every modern semi auto beats a revolver lol. Revolvers are for nostalgia and those resistant to change

Also don’t forget lookin’ rootin tootin fancy and enjoying recoil+fireballs lol

 

[Gryff]

Tacticool statement?

Anything with an RDS, WML, magwell, and extended mag base plate. Bonus points if AIWB and you've posted content showing off how fast your draw is.

 

[Gawernator]

Anything with an RDS, WML, magwell, and extended mag base plate. Bonus points if AIWB and you've posted content showing off how fast your draw is.

Not sure what that has to do with micro vs compact vs subcompact but ok haha

 

[mblat1968]

I think that complaints about weight when it comes to CCW is overstated. IMHO good holster and good belt makes weight less important than overall size .

I think that biggest problem is not weight but the fact that it rubs more that you sweat more that it prints more.

That is all said I shoot subcompact so much better that I decided to eat that extra inconviences. I carry subcompact.

 

[Hindsight]

I think that complaints about weight when it comes to CCW is overstated. IMHO good holster and good belt makes weight less important than overall size .

I think that biggest problem is not weight but the fact that it rubs more that you sweat more that it prints more.

That is all said I shoot subcompact so much better that I decided to eat that extra inconviences. I carry subcompact.

It's all relative to the person, how large or small they might be, how strong they might be (in terms of how well they carry around that extra weight on their hips, lower back, etc.), how the weight of the rig is distributed.

I carried full size 2011s that were 40-50 ounces unloaded before and those got old eventually (beavertail doesn't help).

30 ounces and under unloaded with a spare mag? Not really a problem even on 10-12 hour days where I'm not sitting much if at all. No real issues with bending, or walking a ton either.

Right around the 36+ ounce mark with the same setup though for some reason that's around my limit where after 6-8 hours it gets tiresome. They're effectively the same guns though just one is aluminum vs steel framed. That just seems to be around the weight limit I would otherwise not want to go above unless it was for a short time or I had a good reason.

Removing the spare mag really doesn't help either as I carry it on the opposite side AIWB and the extra weight on the other side helps balance on the weight distribution to me and feels a lot better.

Then we get down to 24 ounces unloaded or so and those are pretty amazing. BG 2.0 CC weight I almost can forget its there and could reasonably fall asleep with it or other relaxing activities.

 

[RustVendor]

Most of these issues like weight aren't "can you?" but "why would you?". I can shoot a 25oz gun really well, carrying a heavier gun seems performative and my belt has to be a lot tighter to hold up the weight. But people certainly can if they really want to, I will make fun of you for it though haha

 

[ar15robert]

Only reason i have a mirco is for ccw.Started with a g43 carried great but wanted more capacity so sold it a couple years ago and got a canik mc9 with double capacity and carries about the same and only a hair wider.

I shoot it here and there for quick practice but wouldnt by one as an only handgun that would be a mid to full size.but already have those too.

 

[Gawernator]

I’m going to international blvd in Oakland so I put my SK away and got the Walther PDP lmao I’ll take the shootability and capacity any day. The increased weight isn’t really noticeable unless your belt is sagging or it’s a really heavy gun

 

[peahi2]

I’m good to go with my g19 and hd 3.6. Ideal guns for me

 

[NorCALSpeed]

I've spent a few hours this week deliberating on a Shield Plus vs a M&P 2.0 C (3.6" or 4"). Seems like the Shield Plus crowd likes the slimness and comfort for CCW, especially in summer (thinner clothing) or for people who wear fitted clothes. Honest Outlaw looooves his Shield Plus for CCW but he does get more practice than most.

However there's plenty of folks who prefer the natural grip of the 3.6/4" (or a comparable Glock). The micros definitely require hand adjustment. I shot a P365 and it felt so cramped and weird.

All that to say that I don't think they're just a trend for trend sake: most people choose comfort over all and most people never use their carry gun in a defensive situation so they're happy to carry the more comfortable option.

 

[Gawernator]

I've spent a few hours this week deliberating on a Shield Plus vs a M&P 2.0 C (3.6" or 4"). Seems like the Shield Plus crowd likes the slimness and comfort for CCW, especially in summer (thinner clothing) or for people who wear fitted clothes. Honest Outlaw looooves his Shield Plus for CCW but he does get more practice than most.

However there's plenty of folks who prefer the natural grip of the 3.6/4" (or a comparable Glock). The micros definitely require hand adjustment. I shot a P365 and it felt so cramped and weird.

All that to say that I don't think they're just a trend for trend sake: most people choose comfort over all and most people never use their carry gun in a defensive situation so they're happy to carry the more comfortable option.

His videos are decent but I’m not sure why he’s an authority on anything other than he seems to have a lot of money and space to shoot

 

[RustVendor]

I've spent a few hours this week deliberating on a Shield Plus vs a M&P 2.0 C (3.6" or 4"). Seems like the Shield Plus crowd likes the slimness and comfort for CCW, especially in summer (thinner clothing) or for people who wear fitted clothes. Honest Outlaw looooves his Shield Plus for CCW but he does get more practice than most.

However there's plenty of folks who prefer the natural grip of the 3.6/4" (or a comparable Glock). The micros definitely require hand adjustment. I shot a P365 and it felt so cramped and weird.

All that to say that I don't think they're just a trend for trend sake: most people choose comfort over all and most people never use their carry gun in a defensive situation so they're happy to carry the more comfortable option.

I liked my shield plus and shot it really well, however my fingers wrapped almost all the way around the grip and left zero room for my support hand and the tips of my fingers would get numb and sore even from just dry firing because there was no space. the actual shape of the grip besides just no being big enough is good though and allows good back to front pressure and a lot of recoil control and it has a surprisingly good recoil impulse. That said I sold it and run a bigger m&p instead but I'm XL lol.

 

[Specialist_muted]

I've spent a few hours this week deliberating on a Shield Plus vs a M&P 2.0 C (3.6" or 4"). Seems like the Shield Plus crowd likes the slimness and comfort for CCW, especially in summer (thinner clothing) or for people who wear fitted clothes. Honest Outlaw looooves his Shield Plus for CCW but he does get more practice than most.

However there's plenty of folks who prefer the natural grip of the 3.6/4" (or a comparable Glock). The micros definitely require hand adjustment. I shot a P365 and it felt so cramped and weird.

All that to say that I don't think they're just a trend for trend sake: most people choose comfort over all and most people never use their carry gun in a defensive situation so they're happy to carry the more comfortable option.

I like my Shield Plus with pinky grip extension. I hate my Shield Plus without pinky grip extension.

 

[Gawernator]

I don’t shoot my shield without the 8 round extension mag. It’s too tiny otherwise

 

[NorCALSpeed]

His videos are decent but I’m not sure why he’s an authority on anything other than he seems to have a lot of money and space to shoot

I think he has a lot of hands-on time with firearms and he's a better shot than most/many of his viewers. He (like many youtubers/influencers) are following a model set by gear magazines decades ago: receive product to test (or buy it yourself) and report your experience. By demonstrating proficiency and experience over time you gain people's trust. He's basically a Guns and Ammo or Firearm blog (though FB does more instrumented testing)

I enjoy his content because he talks about ergonomics, feature functions, fitment, and malfunctions.

Ultimately people watch HO because he provides information, entertainment (similar to PewView), vicarious living, and has a wealth of testing videos. His content is digestible (meaning light on data, charts, paper targets, FPS), fun, and gives you an idea of what holding that firearm is like. Millions of people clearly find value in at least one of those categories.

Ain't for everyone but the great thing about YT is there's at least 1 channel making every kind of possible content you could want.

 

[Nomad]

I don't own any micro hand guns. Sub compact is as small as I'll go and no polymer, my smallest, lightest is 25oz empty. I don't enjoy shooting anything smaller, so I don't own anything smaller.

 

[Gawernator]

I think he has a lot of hands-on time with firearms and he's a better shot than most/many of his viewers. He (like many youtubers/influencers) are following a model set by gear magazines decades ago: receive product to test (or buy it yourself) and report your experience. By demonstrating proficiency and experience over time you gain people's trust. He's basically a Guns and Ammo or Firearm blog (though FB does more instrumented testing)

I enjoy his content because he talks about ergonomics, feature functions, fitment, and malfunctions.

Ultimately people watch HO because he provides information, entertainment (similar to PewView), vicarious living, and has a wealth of testing videos. His content is digestible (meaning light on data, charts, paper targets, FPS), fun, and gives you an idea of what holding that firearm is like. Millions of people clearly find value in at least one of those categories.

Ain't for everyone but the great thing about YT is there's at least 1 channel making every kind of possible content you could want.

He is right about the P226 being one of the best all time handguns and he also loves the Walther PDP