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CCW shooting in Cerritos at Restuarant

Gawernator said:
He did the right thing. Not even a question he probably saved lives. Shame on anyone that would try to Monday morning quarterback a heroic act.

By the way, hope he had CCWsafe. They specifically cover you in sensitive locations
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I'm thinking about switching to CCWsafe from AOR. They have better civil and bond coverage which is nice.
 
11thfinger said:
If they do take his card, I wonder if he'd be eligible to get another one if SB2 was abolished?
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He’d be eligible when the restriction clears regardless of sb2.

There’s a chance prosecutors don’t even go after the sb2 violation.

It doesn’t seem in the interests of justice. I can’t find an example of someone getting charged for violating sb2 either
 
miles888 said:
He’d be eligible when the restriction clears regardless of sb2.

There’s a chance prosecutors don’t even go after the sb2 violation.

It doesn’t seem in the interests of justice. I can’t find an example of someone getting charged for violating sb2 either
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Whats the current status on abolishing sb2?
 
Lady Ruger said:
They are saying he was lawful that does not guarantee they won't take action based on SB2.
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Well SB2 is part of the penal code so that would be "unlawful", even at it's worst though it's a misdemeanor that could get reduced to nothing even if he were charged based on the situation of the case. Considering he's basically a local hero, there's no public interest at all in prosecuting this guy.
 
smoothy8500 said:
If he was directly threatening the CCW holder at his table? "Yes, I was in fear." If the person with a knife was threatening people in general? "I didn't see what happened because I went to the closest exit."

Sounds like the person with a knife was having mental issues and stabbed themselves?
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Unfortunately this attitude people have in terms of “just leave” “not my problem” “they weren’t threatening me” shapes the culture. Even if you’re there with family, kids etc getting them to exit safely is its own logistical nightmare in that situation vs you acting. Elijah 🍆ens could have left the food court with his girlfriend easily given how far he engaged that attacker from but he didn’t and is held as a hero by a lot of people.
 
Lady Ruger said:
They are saying he was lawful that does not guarantee they won't take action based on SB2.
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Yeah doubtful considering sheriff has to
Recommend charges to the DA, who is a Republican not a Democrat. They may also see SB2 as no longer enforceable due to the Supreme Court ruling either who knows. Discretion is huge.

Why would a right wing DA go after a local hero?
 
mbuss101 said:
Unfortunately this attitude people have in terms of “just leave” “not my problem” “they weren’t threatening me” shapes the culture. Even if you’re there with family, kids etc getting them to exit safely is its own logistical nightmare in that situation vs you acting. Elijah 🍆ens could have left the food court with his girlfriend easily given how far he engaged that attacker from but he didn’t and is held as a hero by a lot of people.
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and then the deranged knife attacker sprints at his daughter stabbing her in the neck and she dies on the spot. But hey, at least he was able to run away while he let his daughter die. What a real man:sleep: .
You might as well not even carry if you just run away from every threat that comes across you, why have the hassle?
 
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mbuss101 said:
Unfortunately this attitude people have in terms of “just leave” “not my problem” “they weren’t threatening me” shapes the culture. Even if you’re there with family, kids etc getting them to exit safely is its own logistical nightmare in that situation vs you acting. Elijah 🍆ens could have left the food court with his girlfriend easily given how far he engaged that attacker from but he didn’t and is held as a hero by a lot of people.
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I for sure would have left. That’s just me though.

People voted for the state of affairs here in LA county. They shouldn’t be surprised by things like this happening.

There’s homeless sleeping on the sidewalk using drugs in the open, rampant and brazen home invasions in broad daylight, I could really sit here all day and list things.

“ACAB” “Defund the police” etc.

They’re free to express this, but don’t double back when a loon comes crashing your Sunday dinner with a knife in his hand.

No chance I’m putting my freedom on the line for these clowns. Forget the fact that if I miss my shot and shoot someone else by mistake I’m locked up for the foreseeable future.

They voted for it. I didn’t. So I’m leaving. “Enjoy the fruits of your labor” is what I’d say while I’m preserving my own life.
 
miles888 said:
I for sure would have left. That’s just me though.

People voted for the state of affairs here in LA county. They shouldn’t be surprised by things like this happening.

There’s homeless sleeping on the sidewalk using drugs in the open, rampant and brazen home invasions in broad daylight, I could really sit here all day and list things.

“ACAB” “Defund the police” etc.

They’re free to express this, but don’t double back when a loon comes crashing your Sunday dinner with a knife in his hand.

No chance I’m putting my freedom on the line for these clowns. Forget the fact that if I miss my shot and shoot someone else by mistake I’m locked up for the foreseeable future.

They voted for it. I didn’t. So I’m leaving. “Enjoy the fruits of your labor” is what I’d say while I’m preserving my own life.
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Evil prospers when good men do nothing. I know I would definitely protect my family if a guy with a knife starts charging us. I'm not sure why some of you guys even carry if your reaction is to run away from the threat. If you miss at that range you probably aren't very good at shooting, and under CA law in a justified shoot the bystander would be killed by the attacker not the defender.

Thank God we have capable CCW holders like the guy that saved lives and didn't abandon his family like some in this thread would do.
 
I think the timing of this really helps the CCW holder. The public are tired of the rampant crime that was allowed to run wild for years in LA county. I think he walks and keeps his permit too. If this was a few years ago, and under the disgraced George Gascon, things probably would end up very differently.
 
Enthused said:
I think the timing of this really helps the CCW holder. The public are tired of the rampant crime that was allowed to run wild for years in LA county. I think he walks and keeps his permit too. If this was a few years ago, and under the disgraced George Gascon, things probably would end up very differently.
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Agreed. People especially younger people are swinging back to more conservative or traditional values like self defense and gun ownership
 
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