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Dammit Smith & Wesson, they did it again!

If you like it, awesome - go for it.

For me it checks all the boxes:
Black cylinder(n)
Cerakote (n)
Extended cylinder release that looks like a Harley Davidson kick starter (n)
Optic that reminds me of a short bus (n)
$2K MSRP and $400 +/- in govt fees (n)

I'd rather have a 686+
You forgot about the bastardization of the diamond pattern grips. Those used to mean something, now totally devalued.
 
It’s a F’n revolver, why would a revolver of all f’n things need permission to be on a bs roster.

It’s a revolver, F- you California Politicians
We are lucky to have the new 686 mountain gun. I want one but am holding back due to the qc issues I've been hearing.
 
It’s a F’n revolver, why would a revolver of all f’n things need permission to be on a bs roster.

It’s a revolver, F- you California Politicians
It has a high capacity feeding cylinder, no cylinder disconnect, the upper and lower has to be separated before you can open the cylinder and no loaded cylinder indicator.... It's common sense gun violence prevention.
 
One other reason I refuse to but Smith and Wesson firearms is IIRC the save/record the bullet and case markings for ATF
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend and imho, she’s beautiful! Plus it comes with a free toaster! What’s with that optic? Aimpoint Acro. They any good?
Aimpoint Acros are excellent optics, which has a bonus to use hardly any power. I simply leave mine on all the time and just replace the battery once a year.

Dan.
 
I agree. I’ve been strongly looking at the new mountain gun series, but it’s been riddled with quality control issues. I don’t wanna take a chance on a $1200 gun. We shouldn’t have to.
My Thoughts exactly, and its a shame coming from s&w they were supposed to be the one revolver brand we can depend on. I would just get the 686+ but I hate the look of the internal lock. Will probably end up getting the gp100 in 3".
 
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