Did any of you try to buy 4+ guns yesterday or today to set up the lawsuit against 3 in 30?

[cali_jazz]

No, the CA DOJ will deny you on purchases exceeding the 3 gun limit, and it/they will not be released to you.

According to California Penal Code section 27590, violations of the purchase limit are penalized as follows:

• First Violation: An infraction punishable by a $50 fine .
• Second Violation: An infraction punishable by a $100 fine .
• Third/Subsequent Violation: Classified as a misdemeanor
  
  You will also lose your DROS fee and may be charged a re-stocking fee. If you app is rejected you will have to wait 30 days until you can purchase another gun. Not worth it.
  
  FFL-03/COE are NOT subject to the 3 in 30 rule just like they weren't in the 1 in 30. I was recently told by a LGS that it didn't apply to FFL-03 and had to correct them.

 

[CybeRise]

You have money to purchase more than 3 guns? I mean if you are just doing it to test the system that is something... but If you are legitimately trying to buy more than 3 that's another. It's like saying I'm going to go 30mph on a 25mph zone to test to see if they are going to give me a ticket. Yes you can litigate anything in this country... but pick your battles wisely and know when to pick them.

 

[Jimi Jah]

Not at today's elevated California prices plus 11% 2nd amendment tax plus 9% sales tax.

 

[cali_jazz]

Here's another BIG rub with the 3 in 30 rule and why I think it can be challenged:

PPT's were previously exempt from the 1 in 30 rule, but that "loophole" was removed.

As a private seller I can only have 5 sale transactions or a max of 50 guns per year. But if (non-exempt) buyers can only buy 3 per 30 days I am now effectively only able to sell 15 guns with my 5 transactions. The only way would to sell more than 15 would be to sell to exempt.

AI agrees:
The "50-gun allowance" for private sellers has essentially become a "ghost limit" for most people. To actually move 50 guns in 5 transactions, you are forced into very specific scenarios:

• Selling to a Collector: You find a buyer with an FFL03 and COE. Since they are exempt from the 3-in-30 rule, you can sell them 50 guns in one transaction, and you’re done for the year.
• Family Transfers: If you are "selling" or gifting to immediate family (parent/child), these often don't count against the "3-in-30" for the recipient, though they still count toward your "infrequent" seller limits.
• Consignment: If you give the guns to a dealer to sell on consignment, they don't count as your "transactions" (the dealer is the seller), but the 3-in-30 still applies to each individual buyer who walks into the shop to buy one of your guns from the rack.

In short, the 2026 law was specifically designed to make it nearly impossible for a private citizen to move a large collection quickly without involving an "exempt" buyer or a licensed dealer's inventory.

 

[badsushi]

It's based on purchase date. But it is a rolling 30 day window not "per month". You will be fine in this case.

Thank you

 

[joefrank64k]

You have money to purchase more than 3 guns? I mean if you are just doing it to test the system that is something... but If you are legitimately trying to buy more than 3 that's another. It's like saying I'm going to go 30mph on a 25mph zone to test to see if they are going to give me a ticket. Yes you can litigate anything in this country... but pick your battles wisely and know when to pick them.

Not sure I’m following you. And not trying to argue!!

I just bought six (6) on one DROS. I was exempt with 03FFL+COE.

I wasn’t trying to test the system. I just always buy more than one at a time because I hate wasting a DROS and 10-day wait on just one firearm, haha!!