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Rost Martin R1MF comes to Califnoria

Finally moved out of CA to a free(er) state

H. Bowman said:
You mean San Jose, which is south of your arbitrarily drawn line demarcating southern and northern California? So things south of the line you say are north? And Fresno is Socal?

Interesting.
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You can feel free to die on this hill and say San Jose is in Southern California and it won't bother me one bit. We'll just agree that everything north of San Jose (aka almost the entire Bay Area) is in Northern California.

There is nothing arbitrary about splitting a state evenly in half vertically and calling everything north of that line "northern" and everything south of that line "southern." What you appear to be doing is quite arbitrary however.
 
H. Bowman said:
You mean San Jose, which is south of your arbitrarily drawn line demarcating southern and northern California? So things south of the line you say are north? And Fresno is Socal?

Interesting.
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Central California
 
And heck, even on your funny little map, if you measure from Tijuana to your line, and take that exact same length and measure from your line to the northern border of California, you still leave out Hilt, CA so your line is inaccurate anyway, leaving your whole premise untrustworthy. ;)
 
anonymous said:
You can feel free to die on this hill and say San Jose is in Southern California and it won't bother me one bit. We'll just agree that everything north of San Jose (aka almost the entire Bay Area) is in Northern California.

There is nothing arbitrary about splitting a state evenly in half vertically and calling everything north of that line "northern" and everything south of that line "southern." What you appear to be doing is quite arbitrary however.
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San Jose is part of California's Central Valley region.
 
H. Bowman said:
And heck, even on your funny little map, if you measure from Tijuana to your line, and take that exact same length and measure from your line to the northern border of California, you still leave out Hilt, CA so your line is inaccurate anyway, leaving your whole premise untrustworthy. ;)
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Measure again ;)
 
You probably think Indiana, Illinois, and Iowa are in the mid-west and that biological boys are girls also. :rolleyes: :LOL:
 
Was in Vegas for work for a week, brought along my shotgun to shoot at the wonderful Clark County shooting facility. Went to Bass Pro to get ammo. Paid walked out just like any other merchandise. Browsing the gun counter was like a kid in a candy store. Handled a Volquartsen Black Mamba and Vanquish 22 Superlite ISR, integrated suppressed is very nice. That's the way it Should be. I will be looking to establish Nevada residency and eventually move out of California.
 
I work in tech and have worked in Silicon Valley which is NorCal. Silicon Valley is famous worldwide and it's not central or southern CA.

This doesn't mean Silicon Valley is the *most* north, but it's definitely NorCal.

Fresno is Central California. L.A. is SoCal.
 
Wolkenflieger said:
I work in tech and have worked in Silicon Valley which is NorCal. Silicon Valley is famous worldwide and it's not central or southern CA.

This doesn't mean Silicon Valley is the *most* north, but it's definitely NorCal.

Fresno is Central California. L.A. is SoCal.
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According to anonymous's cute little map, a significant portion of it is south of his self proclaimed center line, putting it squarely in southern California. Which is just as stupid as saying San Jose is northern California.
 
H. Bowman said:
According to anonymous's cute little map, a significant portion of it is south of his self proclaimed center line, putting it squarely in southern California. Which is just as stupid as saying San Jose is northern California.
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I think most people in Santa Clara County would consider themselves to be in NorCal, even if you don't.
 
Regardless of what someone considers themselves, facts are facts.

I suppose you could argue against that in today's world but... that's a whole different discussion. 🤣🤣
 
South bay is usually what SJ is called, aka Man jose
 
H. Bowman said:
Regardless of what someone considers themselves, facts are facts.

I suppose you could argue against that in today's world but... that's a whole different discussion. 🤣🤣
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That's the crux of the matter. I don't think your idea of NorCal is "objective" fact. I would be happy to grant your point with some solid evidence. I'm just going by perception, as someone who has lived in both Northern and Southern California. In Santa Clara, we generally referred to it as NorCal. That doesn't mean there arent' areas farther north. Silicon Valley is famous. L.A. is famous. They are not near each other or they're about 4 hours drivetime apart, longer depending on the route.

Granted, it's fair to make an argument about geography, but what is your standard? In what universe would Santa Clara be anything *but* NorCal?

Wikipedia lists Santa Clara as Northern California;

"Northern California (commonly shortened to NorCal) is a geocultural region that comprises the northern portion of the U.S. state of California, spanning the northernmost 48 of the state's 58 counties. Northern California in its largest definition is determined by dividing the state into two regions, the other being Southern California. The main northern population centers include the San Francisco Bay Area (anchored by the cities of San Jose, San Francisco, and Oakland), the Greater Sacramento area (anchored by the state capital Sacramento), the Redding, California, area south of the Cascade Range, and the Metropolitan Fresno area (anchored by the city of Fresno)."

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AI Overview:

"Yes, Santa Clara is generally considered part of Northern California (NorCal). It is located in the southern portion of the San Francisco Bay Area, which is one of the main metropolitan centers of Northern California. While some locals might colloquially refer to the region as just "the Bay Area" or "South Bay," it is officially within the northern region of the state.
Key Details:
  • Regional Classification: Santa Clara County is recognized as part of the 9-county San Francisco Bay Area in Northern California.
  • Geographic Position: It is located in the southern part of the Bay Area, often referred to as the "South Bay" or "Silicon Valley".
  • Legal/Official Context: The US Code and California DOJ both classify Santa Clara County within the Northern District or Northern California regions.
  • Locally: Some residents may distinguish the Bay Area from further north (like Eureka), but culturally and geographically, it is firmly in NorCal."
 
H. Bowman said:
However, not by anyone that looks at a map.
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Not true. It’s pretty widely accepted that SoCal is from the Mexican border to about Santa Barbara/Pt Conception. Central is from Pt Conception to roughly Santa Cruz, and NorCal is everything above that. Draw a line across from said area to the Nevada border accordingly.
 
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