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Bills Firearm bills awaiting Governor's signature (2025)

Discussion of proposed pieces of legislation
Here's my latest attempt at a letter regarding SB704. I've tried to take a more stately tone, as y'all have recommended. It looks very long here... Thoughts?


Subject: Please Veto SB 704: A bill with unintended consequences

Dear Governor Newsom,

I am writing to express my concern regarding SB-704 (Arreguín) and its proposed regulation of firearm barrels. While I appreciate the intent to reduce the proliferation of ghost guns and improve public safety, I believe this bill risks unintentionally harming lawful businesses and firearm owners in California and carries substantial political risk.

As a lawful California firearm owner, I respectfully urge you to veto SB 704, or to request substantial revisions to address the following concerns:

I. Ineffective Barrier to Building Ghost Guns
SB 704 aims to prevent minors and prohibited individuals from building untraceable firearms, but it misdiagnoses the root of the problem. California already has strict laws governing unfinished receivers and 3D-printed firearms, and prosecutors have the tools to charge those who manufacture ghost guns. Rather than focus on enforcing those laws more effectively, this bill introduces a second layer of regulation – this time on barrels – as if adding one more legal obstacle will deter someone already willing to break the law. It will not. Instead, it risks sweeping up otherwise lawful gun owners who may unknowingly purchase a barrel in the same way they always have, now criminalized under SB 704. Worse, the bill does not and cannot achieve tight control of all sources of barrels, particularly out-of-state retailers. In the end, the burden will fall on the wrong people, while criminals continue to sidestep the rules.

II. Economic Harm to California Businesses
SB 704 would require all transfers or sales of firearm barrels to occur in person through a federally licensed firearm dealer (FFL), with eligibility checks and recordkeeping. However, many lawful businesses that manufacture, import, or sell barrels in California are not FFLs, as their operations fall outside of ATF’s licensing definitions. This includes parts manufacturers, specialty retailers, and distributors – all currently operating legally and responsibly. SB 704 would likely disrupt hundreds of such businesses statewide, potentially hampering hundreds of millions of dollars in economic activity. The burden would fall hardest on small and mid-sized businesses. Moreover, the bill appears to leave a regulatory gap between January 1, 2026, and July 1, 2027, when FFLs would be expected to facilitate barrel transfers without clear authority or process for verifying a purchaser’s eligibility. This creates confusion and legal risk for dealers and consumers alike.

III. Unintended Market Expansion
Because many affected businesses are ineligible for a federal firearms license under current federal law, SB 704 may incentivize them to expand into ammunition or firearm sales simply to qualify for FFL status. This would be an ironic and counterproductive outcome for a bill aimed at reducing access to firearms and related components.

IV. Safety Risks for Lawful Gun Owners
Barrels are consumable components that wear out over time. A damaged barrel can cause explosions and serious injury or death. Restricting access to replacement barrels will discourage proper maintenance and introduce new safety risks, especially for law-abiding owners in rural areas and major cities such as Los Angeles or San Francisco that already have limited access to FFLs.

V. Broader Political Considerations
California has long been at the forefront of firearm regulation. But many lawful gun owners – including those of us who have supported you – are growing concerned about laws that go too far in restricting legal access to parts and accessories.

If you do run for national office, as many expect, your record on firearms will face intense scrutiny. There is already widespread perception that California’s gun policies are out of touch, especially in battleground states where millions of voters value firearm rights, and SB 704 risks amplifying this. Showing nuance here would send a powerful signal that your leadership believes restrictions must be balanced against the rights to lawful gun ownership.

In closing, I ask you to consider whether SB 704 achieves its stated goals. I urge you to veto this bill or push for significant revisions to ensure it targets unlawful activity without penalizing responsible ownership or commerce.

Thank you for your time and service.

Sincerely,
[Your Name], [Your City]
 
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He will sign it. Just matter of when. Imagine Democrats law makers wrote the bill, democrats representatives passed the bill in house and senate, and democrat governor not signing it? It’s career suicide.
However, this will work against him badly when he runs for presidency next.
Imagine news title: “Glock bans for all Americans.”
Get a Glock when you can before the price skyrocketed from PPT.
 
I like it but they don't listen to us.
Hey, well... they sure to 💩 don't read the CAguns forum.

@treelogger told me I gotta get in by selling my brain 🤓 (possibly my body as well? my money went into AR barrels. dgaf about Glocks)
 
That is well written and we should all support the efforts taken. Nice work and thanks for sharing it with all of us.
Agreed. Nice work
 
Here's my latest attempt at a letter regarding SB704. I've tried to take a more stately tone, as y'all have recommended. It looks very long here... Thoughts?


Subject: Please Veto SB 704: A bill with unintended consequences

Dear Governor Newsom,

I am writing to express my concern regarding SB-704 (Arreguín) and its proposed regulation of firearm barrels. While I appreciate the intent to reduce the proliferation of ghost guns and improve public safety, I believe this bill risks unintentionally harming lawful businesses and firearm owners in California and carries substantial political risk.

As a lawful California firearm owner, I respectfully urge you to veto SB 704, or to request substantial revisions to address the following concerns:

I. Ineffective Barrier to Building Ghost Guns
SB 704 aims to prevent minors and prohibited individuals from building untraceable firearms, but it misdiagnoses the root of the problem. California already has strict laws governing unfinished receivers and 3D-printed firearms, and prosecutors have the tools to charge those who manufacture ghost guns. Rather than focus on enforcing those laws more effectively, this bill introduces a second layer of regulation – this time on barrels – as if adding one more legal obstacle will deter someone already willing to break the law. It will not. Instead, it risks sweeping up otherwise lawful gun owners who may unknowingly purchase a barrel in the same way they always have, now criminalized under SB 704. Worse, the bill does not and cannot achieve tight control of all sources of barrels, particularly out-of-state retailers. In the end, the burden will fall on the wrong people, while criminals continue to sidestep the rules.

II. Economic Harm to California Businesses
SB 704 would require all transfers or sales of firearm barrels to occur in person through a federally licensed firearm dealer (FFL), with eligibility checks and recordkeeping. However, many lawful businesses that manufacture, import, or sell barrels in California are not FFLs, as their operations fall outside of ATF’s licensing definitions. This includes parts manufacturers, specialty retailers, and distributors – all currently operating legally and responsibly. SB 704 would likely disrupt hundreds of such businesses statewide, potentially hampering hundreds of millions of dollars in economic activity. The burden would fall hardest on small and mid-sized businesses. Moreover, the bill appears to leave a regulatory gap between January 1, 2026, and July 1, 2027, when FFLs would be expected to facilitate barrel transfers without clear authority or process for verifying a purchaser’s eligibility. This creates confusion and legal risk for dealers and consumers alike.

III. Unintended Market Expansion
Because many affected businesses are ineligible for a federal firearms license under current federal law, SB 704 may incentivize them to expand into ammunition or firearm sales simply to qualify for FFL status. This would be an ironic and counterproductive outcome for a bill aimed at reducing access to firearms and related components.

IV. Safety Risks for Lawful Gun Owners
Barrels are consumable components that wear out over time. A damaged barrel can cause explosions and serious injury or death. Restricting access to replacement barrels will discourage proper maintenance and introduce new safety risks, especially for law-abiding owners in rural areas and major cities such as Los Angeles or San Francisco that already have limited access to FFLs.

V. Broader Political Considerations
California has long been at the forefront of firearm regulation. But many lawful gun owners – including those of us who have supported you – are growing concerned about laws that go too far in restricting legal access to parts and accessories.

If you do run for national office, as many expect, your record on firearms will face intense scrutiny. There is already widespread perception that California’s gun policies are out of touch, especially in battleground states where millions of voters value firearm rights, and SB 704 risks amplifying this. Showing nuance here would send a powerful signal that your leadership believes restrictions must be balanced against the rights to lawful gun ownership.

In closing, I ask you to consider whether SB 704 achieves its stated goals. I urge you to veto this bill or push for significant revisions to ensure it targets unlawful activity without penalizing responsible ownership or commerce.

Thank you for your time and service.

Sincerely,
[Your Name], [Your City]
So you supported Gavin Newsom and now you’re begging him not to sign one of the silliest pieces of firearms legislation ever to come down the pike? What exactly were you thinking when you voted for a guy who’s never seen an antigun law he didn’t like?

Go ahead and send your letter to the guy who has been nothing but mean-spirited and vindictive to the firearms community and see where it gets you.

Next time maybe you’ll vote for someone who doesn’t hate you.
 
So you supported Gavin Newsom and now you’re begging him not to sign one of the silliest pieces of firearms legislation ever to come down the pike? What exactly were you thinking when you voted for a guy who’s never seen an antigun law he didn’t like?

Go ahead and send your letter to the guy who has been nothing but mean-spirited and vindictive to the firearms community and see where it gets you.

Next time maybe you’ll vote for someone who doesn’t hate you.
I'm not answering this - you gotta read the thread. Do not attack me.
 
I'm not answering this - you gotta read the thread. Do not attack me.
I didn’t attack you. But I did read your letter, and in it you very specifically said “those of us who have supported you”. What else does that imply?

By all means, send your letter. But you will have wasted your time.
 
If you're not here to help, you're in the way. You read what I wrote, not how I voted. Read the thread.
C'mon, man, help what? What's done is done.

I don't think you understand the thinking of our overlords in Sacramento. You can write a letter like yours, which is a very good letter, but it won't make a difference, and here's why:

The democrats that control this state are vehemently opposed to any type of firearms ownership and they will do anything to achieve that goal. It doesn't matter what their constituents might say, they'll do what they want. To them, any antigun legislation that they can get through to the governor's desk is another feather in their caps.

Look at it this way, if you were in power, would you listen to anyone wanting you to vote against your own interests? The answer is, of course, a resounding no.

I'd be surprised if anyone took the time to even give your letter a quick scan. Remember, they don't care about you. In fact, they hate you.
 
I'd be surprised if anyone took the time to even give your letter a quick scan. Remember, they don't care about you. In fact, they hate you.
This is the sentiment people want you to think and why negative echo chambering works. It takes time to turn the tide so don’t expect quick results. Sentiment needs to change at a lower level.
 
If you're not here to help, you're in the way. You read what I wrote, not how I voted. Read the thread.

You voted for Gavin Newsom. He doesn’t have to read the rest of the letter. You voted for an overlord, and Gavin won’t read your letter either.

The leader of “the great state of California”. Of course if you remove Hollywood and Silicon Valley, California would be a slum because of Gavin and the democrats runnings things here. Those 2 industries are all that prop this place up.
 
You voted for Gavin Newsom.
Go away troll. I wrote this because it's persuasion. Read the thread.

In fact, they hate you.
I listen so I can learn. I'll talk to anyone about guns. It's not ideal if no one in Sacramento ever reads my letters, but I can't control that. But I also know you get nothing for nothing in this life. The process of writing these helps me hone my own arguments, which is in itself valuable. The same arguments are going to need to be formulated again and again. I wrote to my Assembly member multiple times this year regarding their own firearm bills (which died). Will I be more effective if I'm practiced at it? I dunno, possibly? Personally, I appreciate anyone here who can think analytically about the context in which these bills are being drafted and the forces behind them - I for one do not know it all. I don't have political or judicial ambitions. Hopefully that answers the 'why'.
 
You voted for Gavin Newsom. He doesn’t have to read the rest of the letter. You voted for an overlord, and Gavin won’t read your letter either.

The leader of “the great state of California”. Of course if you remove Hollywood and Silicon Valley, California would be a slum because of Gavin and the democrats runnings things here. Those 2 industries are all that prop this place up.
Criticism is easy. Who do you see in CA that would be a good candidate that represents your values right now?

Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and Napa are leaders in their class. When you say “that’s all” keep in mind these are top in class globally, not nationally. Gavin was lucky enough to be here but mess it up, with the right leadership CA is stronger than sovereign nations. So identifying the appropriate leader is more difficult than talking trash about the guy who’s in charge. Trash talking is easy.

I actually like Daniel Laurie, he’s making some
real changes in the city. Is there a lot of work to do? Yes. I think people need to understand that it takes a lot of balls to get into the spotlight to be criticized every day. Let alone get the job done.

People are pissed st Gavin, me included. We need someone better, more organized, less corrupt.
 
Go away troll. I wrote this because it's persuasion. Read the thread.

So you lied to him, and you didn’t really vote for him? As if that’s going to persuade a guy like that? Don’t waste you time.

The only way Gavin doesn’t sign something is if it benefits Gavin to not sign it. Will he throw a bone and maybe veto something to show he supports the 2nd amendment? Maybe, if it benefits his presidential aspirations. Any other year he would have rubber stamped everything gun control that arrived at his desk. The only hope is that the “I’m a fan of the 2nd amendment” interview he gave needs to be backed up with some falsely manufactured proof he can point to.
 
Criticism is easy. Who do you see in CA that would be a good candidate that represents your values right now?

Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and Napa are leaders in their class. When you say “that’s all” keep in mind these are top in class globally, not nationally. Gavin was lucky enough to be here but mess it up, with the right leadership CA is stronger than sovereign nations. So identifying the appropriate leader is more difficult than talking trash about the guy who’s in charge. Trash talking is easy.

I actually like Daniel Laurie, he’s making some
real changes in the city. Is there a lot of work to do? Yes. I think people need to understand that it takes a lot of balls to get into the spotlight to be criticized every day. Let alone get the job done.

People are pissed st Gavin, me included. We need someone better, more organized, less corrupt.

I didn’t mean “that’s all” in terms of them not making a difference. They make all the difference. If those industries weren’t here, California wouldn’t be any better than Nevada or Florida etc. Every time he or the democrats speak, they make it sound like he and the democrats are responsible for the prosperity, but the reality is that the prosperity was here, with or without Gavin. The democrats use this as a shield to any criticism when they can just say “well, we’re so good we could be our own country”, which is true, but they shouldn’t pretend they had anything to do with it. In fact, we’re that way in spite of the democrats bumbling everything.

It doesn’t really matter looking for someone better right now. You’ve got Gavin now, and then you get Bonta or Harris after him. There are way too many brainwashed in this state. Can things change eventually? Yes , it did before. When I was growing up California was a solid Republican state. Right now, no. A good portion of people here will vote for the “Trump is bad” candidate. That’s all they need to hear. If there are any republicans running, even if they say they don’t support Trump, it won’t matter. If there’s an R next to their name, that’s the deal breaker.
 
Here's my latest attempt at a letter regarding SB704. I've tried to take a more stately tone, as y'all have recommended. It looks very long here... Thoughts?

You asked folks to give you thoughts on the letter. That opens all of the letter up to scrutiny, and folks can make observations about everything you wrote. The upside is, some folks read your entire letter; the downside is some have picked out details to criticize. Now the signal is getting lost in the noise.
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My input:
-The letter is too long. FAR too long. Staff will read the subject line, put it in the “opposed-veto” file and close the lid.
-Your letter is too late.
- -Your input would have been better applied in a (more concise) letter to the author with copies to the members of the policy committees.
-If you are seeking to persuade by claiming to support the Gov, then lead with that. Buried at the end is pointless…you already said you want a veto.

There’s more, but these are the important issues.
 
. If there are any republicans running, even if they say they don’t support Trump, it won’t matter. If there’s an R next to their name, that’s the deal breaker.
Let’s be real. There aren’t any good Republicans right now. The R team doesn’t have an independent voice. They are like Borg currently. Resistance is futile. Don’t forget Schwarzenegger was an R. Things were great then either and when Bush II was Pres we spent 2 decades at war because they got the information wrong. Difference then. Freedom fries, your either with us or against us. It’s all marketing optics.

It doesn’t matter which party, what matters should be who’s effective. Who’s the effective speaker that can get things done and it should be regardless of party.

Watching who the possible up and comers now are important to track what they say and what they do. The person with the best results should be the one we push for IMO
 
It doesn’t matter which party, what matters should be who’s effective. Who’s the effective speaker that can get things done and it should be regardless of party.

It does very much matter which party. Gone are the days when "getting things done" by either party meant good things for the nation.

Right now, we have one "party" whose goal is to destroy democracy in the United States. As recently as this week we have witnessed the near destruction of the 1st amendment and the 4th amendment! We have a totally corrupt SCOTUS, engineered by that same party. We have a completely lawless and virtually immune president, engineered again by super wealthy oligarchs that one party who is demagoguing millions upon millions of Americans, who is betraying our nation and our allies by aligning himself with authoritarians and dictators all over the world, who is illegally applying stifling and regressive taxes to Americans through asinine tariffs all so the super rich can benefit.

We have a party that is completely destroying the public health systems in the country and that is destroying scientific research because well, they do not understand science and the super wealthy don't want to pay for it. This same party is also militarizing the United States and using that military to repress and intimidate our own citizens and to literally murder suspected criminals outside the country without due process.

Getting things done by the "party" in control means dividing and destroying the USA. This is absolutely not the case with the other party.

Ikeo1, you do not like the word, but without any doubt we now have a 🥔 (phascist) party in control and the other party is one of democracy and opportunity for all, not just Caucasians. To deny this is to deny reality.
 
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