All I’ll add to the thread is that there’s a reason most serious shooters and professionals shoot Glocks. Not sig 1911s …. I personally think folks are hoping, waiting, maybe wishing they get gen 6 on the roster. I also think there’s a big reluctance/sour feeling from those who want gen 5 and gen 6 Glocks but aren’t in the financial position to be able to afford them lol
I asked the oracle:
"The Glock market isn’t “dead.” The artificial California Glock premium is what’s dying.
Glock is still a great pistol. Reliable, simple, huge parts/mag/holster ecosystem, decades of agency use. Nobody serious is saying Glocks are junk.
But the old California logic was basically: “It’s Glock, it’s off-roster/newer than Gen 3, therefore pay stupid money.” That made more sense when the roster gave people fewer modern options. It makes less sense now when buyers can get modern S&W, Walther, HK, SIG, CZ, Springfield, etc. options that are just as reliable for actual carry/defense use and often come with better triggers, optics readiness, ergonomics, and features.
A Gen 5 Glock is better than a Gen 3 Glock, sure. But it is not magic. A PDP, M&P 2.0, VP9/P30/P2000, P320, P365 variant, CZ, etc. are not unreliable toys. The gap is mostly ecosystem and institutional history, not mechanical reliability.
So no, Glock isn’t dead. The “Glock tax” is what is getting exposed. If someone wants a Glock because they like Glock, fine. But pretending a Gen 5 Glock should command crazy PPT money just because it says Glock on the slide is cope."
Nobody said Glock is bad. That’s the straw man.
Glocks are reliable, simple, easy to maintain, and have the best parts/mag/holster ecosystem in the pistol world. That is real. But that does not make a Gen 3 Glock worth stupid PPT money in 2026.
The argument is value. A Gen 3 Glock was introduced in 1998. It was revolutionary then. Today it is a very basic polymer striker-fired pistol in a market full of modern optics-ready guns with better triggers, better ergonomics, better texture, better sights, better modularity, and the same practical reliability from major manufacturers.
“Professionals use Glocks” is not the slam dunk people think it is. Professionals have also used M9s, P226s, P320s, M&Ps, HKs, 1911/2011s, etc. A lot of agency adoption is about price, contracts, logistics, armorer support, parts supply, and standardization. That proves Glock is a great institutional pistol. It does not prove a used Gen 3 is worth clown-money on PPT.
The Glock market is not dead. The California Glock tax is dying. Big difference.
If someone wants a Glock because they like Glock, fine. I get it. But pretending a Gen 3/Gen 5 Glock is objectively worth hundreds over comparable modern options is mostly brand loyalty and roster-scarcity cope.