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You don't want extremely clean shiny brass since it may cause sticking issues when flaring the case mouth. For me it's 2-3 seconds of slight pressure/gravity feed Dawn, @ 1/2 tsp of lemyshine and wet tumble @ 3-400 9mm cases for 40 mins no pins. Dry in an old air fryer on 270 for 20 mins and you're ready to roll.