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Ok, I will give an opportunity for Accurate to get "educated". We will see how they respond (react?) to the information presented.No, do not put FFLs on any ignore list.
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Ok, I will give an opportunity for Accurate to get "educated". We will see how they respond (react?) to the information presented.No, do not put FFLs on any ignore list.
That’s an extremely petty reason to ignore someone. They’re not being malicious, likely just missed or glossed over some details as they’re referring to sales and transfers of firearms in their responses.Time to put "Accurate Arms" on the ignore list.....
If a Ceracote vendor is receiving serialized parts (most handgun frames) for work, they need a FFL01 dealer/gunsmith license.So, if the Ceracote vendor holds an FFL, all is good, yes?
Also, SMG is an approved FFL means of transfer.
It is kind of you to offer to do the work rather than have it shipped out.
Yes it is likely, yet when presented with their mistake the response was to double-down on their position....But, we'll see if they re-assess the AI answer they copy and pasted.likely just missed or glossed over some details
They said that the DOJ told them this, the thing is they may be telling the truth and their contact at DOJ may be wrong. There also could be a misunderstanding in that the out of state gunsmith who does the work does actually need to be an FFL to receive a firearm to do work on it so maybe they were thinking if a hypothetical where that gunsmith is not an FFL, but per federal law they do need to be an FFL.Yes it is likely, yet when presented with their mistake the response was to double-down on their position....But, we'll see if they re-assess the AI answer they copy and pasted.
This forum we see a lot of posts where members complain or call out "Fudd answers" from gunshops. Usually it is the workers with limited understanding of the complex laws and regulations. Then again, perhaps the workers' Fudd answers came directly from the FFL/Gunshop owner?
It's important to note that the ability for the general public to ship any firearms through either FedEx or UPS was removed from company policies over a year ago. To use them now, you need an FFL (apparently and FFL-03 is sufficient) and you need to enter into a contract with them to ship.I know some folks still go to Fedex, others ship from an FFL. Anyone have experience/advice in this realm?
The problem we have is we don't know what the explicit question was which was asked of the DOJ. If the phrasing was undestood to be, "Don't all handguns coming into California have to come through an FFL?", will get a far different answer than, "Do all firearms sent out of California for gunsmithing work have to be returned through a California FFL?"They said that the DOJ told them this, the thing is they may be telling the truth and their contact at DOJ may be wrong.
exactlyThe problem we have is we don't know what the explicit question was which was asked of the DOJ. If the phrasing was undestood to be, "Don't all handguns coming into California have to come through an FFL?", will get a far different answer than, "Do all firearms sent out of California for gunsmithing work have to be returned through a California FFL?"
Both have true answers, but they don't apply to each equally.