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Rost Martin R1MC comes to Califnoria

Old Guy Making The Case For Revolvers

My 1980 Ruger Blackhawk 6.5" is in my top 3 for my favorite guns. It's extremely accurate, feels great in the hand, and is a hoot to plink steel with. Its great to go with friends or people who have only ever shot semi-autos and show them how to run it.
 
Ryan Gosling said:
people who say revolvers are not complicated have never seen the internals of one. Revolvers have their place but they are not more reliable than a semi-auto. This is a debate that was solved 50 years ago.

that said, noone has been shot with a 357 mag and said "yeah but you only have 5/4/3/2/1 rounds left!"
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Absolutely true. Getting revolver parts to fit/ clearance by smashing them with a large hammer is not for the faint of heart!

And really, since when do any of the more popular semi-auto pistols ever have reliability problems. Yeah, it happens, but it's very rare.
 
Markbsae said:
To each their own. I can send 20+ in the time it takes to send 12 with a wheel gun. People say they're reliable which I don't doubt but I have a P2000SK with 7k+ and not a single jam, ftf, or stovepipe. Ever. My Glocks have been pretty reliable too but only about 2500+ now. The bottom line is carry what youre comfortable with and can reliably put rounds on target and reload.
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han_solo said:
Scenario . Intruder in your home , you are searching as he grabs barrel when you come around a blind corner . Which of the two (revolver/semi) do you wish you were holding in this f'ed scenario ..

Scenario 2 shooting from your pocket fully concealed . Semi or revolver ?

For my 2 cents in physical Contact range a revolver is better . Anything outside that and a semi is better .
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Wrong, SBR trumps both and there is no debate about stopping power :)
 
i have, and shot competition with them. it is obscenely hard to compete. using jerry as an example of capability is like using mike tyson as the reason you punch a certain way, or using Bob Munden as why using a single action army is effective

jerry sends 27 rounds downrange in 3.7 seconds, without a reload, using a semi-auto. Revolvers arent as capable as modern semi-autos, and have significantly higher skill requirements, its simple as.
 
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Ryan Gosling said:
i have, and shot competition with them. it is obscenely hard to compete. using jerry as an example of capability is like using mike tyson as the reason you punch a certain way, or using Bob Munden as why using a single action army is effective

jerry sends 27 rounds downrange in 3.7 seconds, without a reload, using a semi-auto. Revolvers arent as capable as modern semi-autos, and have significantly higher skill requirements, its simple as.
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Okay, you still have to train to be proficient in your weapon of choice
 
Ryan Gosling said:
i have, and shot competition with them. it is obscenely hard to compete. using jerry as an example of capability is like using mike tyson as the reason you punch a certain way, or using Bob Munden as why you a single action army is effective

jerry sends 27 rounds downrange in 3.7 seconds, without a reload, using a semi-auto. Revolvers arent as capable as modern semi-autos, and have significantly higher skill requirements, its simple as.
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I wish you could have seen the far/near standards when we used to shoot those at the IRC. They used to be a staple, everyone had to shoot them as part of a course of fire. The first string was 6 rounds at 50 yards, an X hit on the target improves score, A zone would result in no time penalty added. 6 targets, NRA D1, 3 across the top and 3 across the bottom. Start position standing, either facing uprange, or downrange. At the beep, if facing uprange, turn, draw, place 1 round freestyle on each of 6 targets, 9 seconds. If facing downrange, draw, go prone, 1 round on each target. The stage is 36 rounds total (other strings of fire different), par time 36 seconds, if one shoots all X's, then score time is zero. If one shoots all A's, score is 36. Of course, B, C, D misses cost more.
The point is that there are some really good revolver guys out there, one doesn't have to shoot a semi to be effective. A good friend of mine shot a really good score using a snubby 610, shooting .40 S&W with OPEN SIGHTS. 50 yards, 9 seconds, 6 targets, open sights, going prone from standing.
Practice is what makes one good, not equipment. My friend with the 610 used to finish in the top 10, often in the top 5, in limited USPSA local matches, shooting against semi-autos.
I usually shoot a semi these days when I have time, just easier to find holsters - and no one else shooting a revo. If I ever get time to compete again I might shoot a 625 just to be different.
 
I qualified for my CCW yesterday with 2 guns... Hellcat 9mm and LCR in .327 mag (shooting S&W .32 long). The LCR is 6 shot, CA limits the HC to 10. Course of fire was 6 shots each at 5, 7, 10 yards in 6, 10, 15 seconds. Max score is 180, min to pass is 126. The LCR scored mid 160s Hellcat was mid 170s. LCR has 7 lb. mainspring, gets occasional light strikes on Mag-Tech, never on Aguilla, only two brands I've tried. Both are iron sights, I would choose either one equally as a carry gun. Outside of CA where the HC can hold 13+ I'd give it the nod but only because of capacity. The LCR is an awesome gun.
 
p--and--p said:
SOOOOOooooo I only have 2011's at this point, but wouldnt mind one revolver.. Was looking at the Korth NXS Nighthawk- seems like that is the "one" to own? Any thoughts? The only revolvers I shot sucked bigtime though
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The standard revolver is a S&W 686 4". Feels fantastic in the hand and it's very easy to stage the double action trigger for incredible accuracy. Single action feels like cheating. Revolvers in general are good guns for not accidentally shooting your d@ck off. Any comparison between 9mm +p and 357 are nonsensical. I have my G17 due to ammo cost and the fact that I acquired 3 regular capacity mags during freedom week here in California. Facing a single bandido I'd rather have the Smith I sold but you can never predict how many varmints you may have to dispatch at once.
 
eaglemike said:
Practice is what makes one good, not equipment.
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I find it strange that people see "x is not as good as y, x needs lots of training to perform like y" and interpret it as "x doesnt work at all". Revolvers take more skills to use effectively than a semi. Anything else is cope.

Malibu said:
Please enlighten me on why this is….
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For one, good luck aiming. If your that close that you cant draw to aim, youre already at arms reach, or at gunpoint. Not many people survive a point blank gunfight from the drop, even if they get the first shot off. You might just be better off complying at that point and waiting for an opportunity to resist.

For two, if your pocket shooting, you probably arent using a holster and are retarded for other reasons.

For 3, is your cylinder going to spin correctly? Is your hammer, if exposed, going to catch? Have you practiced actually shooting from your pockets using daily clothes or is it just wishful thinking.

The whole pocket shooting scenario is one possible benefit that requires signficant drawbacks in most other areas that does not hold water in my mind. My ass aint wearing a jacket in 90 degree weather just in case i need to save .4 seconds on a draw. Wall of text concluded.
 
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