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As long as you can keep all the hits on the paper they do not.
It's a cool spot, pretty much as long as your handling is safe you can train how you would like.
Ranges with holster draw
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It's a cool spot, pretty much as long as your handling is safe you can train how you would like.
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I started my training earlier this year. I could write a book on this (for the Bay Area) but I am working on a guide for "new shooters" to share my experience, recommendation's, learnings and resources.
If I had to do it all over again, I would've:
1. Took Basic Pistol immediately, not waiting for application approval
2. Taken Basic Pistol again ASAP
3. Signed up for all the action range orientations
4. Taken Intermediate Pistol - which covers everything you need to know for action pistol orientations and more
5. Signed up for at least 1 CCW specific class every month
Obviously, this all depends on your resources but I'd have gotten so much more out of all the money I spent on ammo (and firearms), this year.
Holster (OWB), rapid fire, dynamic practice
You'll need to get access to action ranges - and practices - to get the most time and volume. Most of them require an orientation OR a classification in a competitive league, USPSA and IDPA being the most widely accepted.
1. Register on PractiScore - this is primarily for competition but most clubs run registration through here
2. Sign-up for one of the New Competitor orientations at Richmond Rod and Gun Club - you'll also need a club membership to access practices as this is a private club.
2. Sign-up for Saturday Night Steel (every Saturday night) at San Leandro Rifle and Pistol as @Sloat mentioned - expect to wait up to 2 months to get in, but they do have a waitlist. No membership needed, just pay regular range fees. Great group of folks!
3. Sign-up for orientation at Diablo Action Pistol you'll need to email the admin from the club page to let you know when the next one opens up. They run every other month. You'll also need a membership at Diablo Rod and Gun Club to join practices - every other Thursday, most Saturdays
This might sound like a lot but it's worth it just to do it all considering the wait.
CCW and IWB practice
Access to IWB live-fire practice is somewhat difficult. You're largely limited to classes, USPSA and IDPA matches. Richmond Action runs USPSA specific practice but I can't remember if IWB is allowed in practice.
Anyhow, my recommendation is to take CCW specific training, regardless. Especially, if you're new to shooting and/or competition there are bad habits that you can form that could be harmful in defense situations so having folks that can help keep your foundation solid is a good idea.
I've taken nearly all the CCW classes (many of them 2+ times) from Paladin Tactical https://www.paladin-tactical-us.com/upcoming-all-ccw out of USI in Concord. They have the largest volume of CCW specific defense classes - beyond the mandatory 16 hours - that I've been able to find. They also, have a former 30 year prosecutor on staff who specialized in use of force incidents so it brings another level of perspective in protecting yourself physically AND legally. I just took Concealed Carry Applications 2 a couple weeks ago where we learned drawing and shooting from concealment while moving and sitting. Only the Concealed Carry Applications (series) allows IWB/concealment.
Keep Fighting is coming up next. Not IWB but if you're in an actual gun fight and get hit, you still have to do what it takes to win.
Between the action pistol practices, training and dry fire practice you should be able to bridge that all together to get solid at some common defensive drills: Bill Drill, Mozambique, 10-10-10, 1-reload-1...
I'll take classes anywhere but most of my training has been with Paladin Tactical as I'm familiar with their system and now, they know how to assess my current skill to tell me where I should be at this point and what I need to work on. So I can tell you more about my experience training with them and their offerings if that interests you.
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Reeds indoor range allows holster draws and rapid fire once you take defensive handgun
Stage1 - 1Day $300 Basic Pistol
/Holster Use/marksmanship/ reloads
Stage2 - 2Day $500 Rapid fire/low light no light shooting/movement/ effective hits/ malfunction drills/ shoot no shoot targets
They do allow people to sign up for stage two directly if you have certificates for other pistol classes ( they have to be recent and reeds gets the final say if they approve or not)
Honestly stage 2 was great and worth the money. Stage 1 was meh
But a holster range in the south bay for $20
Is a godsend for practice
Stage1 - 1Day $300 Basic Pistol
/Holster Use/marksmanship/ reloads
Stage2 - 2Day $500 Rapid fire/low light no light shooting/movement/ effective hits/ malfunction drills/ shoot no shoot targets
They do allow people to sign up for stage two directly if you have certificates for other pistol classes ( they have to be recent and reeds gets the final say if they approve or not)
Honestly stage 2 was great and worth the money. Stage 1 was meh
But a holster range in the south bay for $20
Is a godsend for practice
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I've only been to Reed's once. I liked it there. Do they allow draw from IWB?
My only issue is that I avoid indoor ranges now or I'll wear a respirator. When I was shooting indoor a lot my BLL went up to 9.6 within 5 months. Now that I shoot primarily outdoor - and even more - it has gone down to 7.1.
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I believe they allow iwb once you take the class
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I help run San Jose Action Pistol; it’s part of Santa Clara Valley Rifle Club. We rent the 200yd range at Metcalf on 3rd Sundays and shoot from holsters, IWB and OWB (shooter’s choice). We shoot’s pistols the way they are meant to be used.
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Thank you for that:
Can't wait to check it out. See you at the next APC event!
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Be sure to read the requirements on the site, I don’t want you to be surprised by anything.
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The Gun Range in North Highlands allows CCW permit holders to draw from IWB and they allow to shoot practically without the 1 bullet every 1 hour bs. When you check in let them know your a CCW permit holder and want to draw from holster. Sacramento Gun Range off Routier Rd also allows holster work but for members only AND they dont allow appendix draw for what ever reason but they do allow you to shoot practically. Both ranges are great for an in-door range and not having to do extra classes or what have you just to draw from holster and have great gun shops.
I live in Vallejo and those are the only 2 ranges I go to and suggest.
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What range is this?
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Also if you’re a member at Sac Gun Range and they recognize you and you have the red draw card clipped to your stall, the RSOs essentially ignore you. I do all kinds of stuff there like transitions with a target in the next stall over etc and no one cares
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100% step one is make friends step two is don't be a squid
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do you chance know why they dont allow appendix draw over there?
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some newbie who didnt practice at home probably shot himself in the
and or leg...
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typical probably using a 1911/2011 and didn't engage the thumb safety. saw that happen beforesome newbie who didnt practice at home probably shot himself in the
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No idea. I’m going there in a couple hours so I’ll ask.. not sure there was even an incident or if it’s just precaution/prejudice.
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It used to be that each of the two classes was two weekend days, 10-4 or something like that. I think the schedule has changed, one at least one of the classes is now spread over three evenings (6:30 to 9 or so) instead. So these are not short 1/2 hour classes.
I took them a decade or 15 years ago, but I go to Reeds extremely rarely, and I'm sure they have no records of those old classes any longer.
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I believe KW Defense allows it if you can show you have CCW permit and such. 
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So I asked. The guys at the counter did not think there was any past incident or anything, just that the owner made the rule because (like a shoulder holster) the gun is technically flagging someone during the draw. (Shoulder holsters flagging people behind you or to the side, appendix flagging yourself).
They also said they don’t really agree, and that it can be totally safe, but them’s the rules that have been passed down. I commented that when I’m shooting/drawing there, they essentially ignore me, and he said “yeah, there’s a reason for that.”
So if you go there a decent amount, are friendly and make yourself known, and demonstrate that you aren’t a complete idiot, you’re probably fine.