Revolvers, Why Would Commiefornia Create a Roster for Revolvers?

[skb720]

Revolvers would Not have LCI and mag disconnect, how/why did the State win the argument for rostering revolvers? Was looking for a Taurus Judge in .410 and couldn't get any because of the silly crazy roster.

 

[Ryan Gosling]

why is easy. they want to ban all handguns and know the courts will take forever

 

[Enthused]

The main goals of the roster is to keep the citizens disarmed AND to financially impact the manufacturers themselves.

 

[RickD427]

Revolvers would Not have LCI and mag disconnect, how/why did the State win the argument for rostering revolvers? Was looking for a Taurus Judge in .410 and couldn't get any because of the silly crazy roster.

I'm not sure that you know what you're talking about.

The Safe Handgun roster lists those firearms that have passed the laboratory testing process and subsequent DOJ approval that permits them to be sold in California. It's important to note that the roster requirement does not apply to possession, personal importation, and private party transfers of handguns.

It's not the safe handgun roster that affects the Taurus Judge. It's a felony to simply possess a Taurus Judge in California. That's a much stronger prohibition that the one created by the roster.

The problem with the Taurus Judge is that it meets California's state law definition of a Short Barrel Shotgun (even it it does not meet the federal law definition) and that makes the simple possession a felony under Penal Code section 33215.

 

[Enthused]

Yeah the Judge might not have been a great example. But anything like the new Colt Viper, or dozens and dozens of other revolvers that aren't on the roster, is IMO the point OP was trying to make.

 

[skb720]

Ok bad example, but my question is around if the 9th Circus struck down microstamping but allowed LCI and mag disconnect, why would they apply to revolvers? Seems the "California needs to lab test and certify" should be the core of the lawsuit.

 

[RickD427]

Ok bad example, but my question is around if the 9th Circus struck down microstamping but allowed LCI and mag disconnect, why would they apply to revolvers? Seems the "California needs to lab test and certify" should be the core of the lawsuit.

I'm not defending the concept of the roster. IMHO, it's an unconstitutional statute. But then, my personal opinion don't count for much.

As for the concept of the roster applying to revolvers, you're right in that the LCI and Mag Disconnect have no application, but the drop test part of the requirement is applicable to revolvers.

 

[H. Bowman]

The Taurus Judge being unpurchasable doesn't have anything to do with roster, LCI, or barrel length.

It's not only illegal to sell it here (if it was a roster issue, you could still purchase it private party). It's illegal to possess because CA law classifies it as a short barrel shotgun.

The roster has nothing to do with it.

 

[AR15barrels]

Ok bad example, but my question is around if the 9th Circus struck down microstamping but allowed LCI and mag disconnect, why would they apply to revolvers? Seems the "California needs to lab test and certify" should be the core of the lawsuit.

LCI and mag disconnect only apply to semi-auto pistols.
I don’t understand why you would ask about them in relation to revolvers.

 

[DrewN]

Because the roster isn't rational. They don't really care if handguns are "safe", they just want to kill gun culture root and vine. Notice how everything that's banned is pretty much "enthusiast" stuff? Stuff that appeals to new or casual shooters, or that are heavily featured in media? The just want to make guns boring and FUDD-y, so the hobby dies out.

 

[21SF 2.0]

The roster isn’t just to list handguns with lci and mag disco. It’s an extortion/deterrent revenue generation scheme.

 

[Fishnbeer]

The roster has nothing to do with safety.

 

[foothillman]

Ran across this...
New to me but only own 2 revolvers, pre-lock.....time to rethink.

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[socalgunowner909]

Bout time!

 

[Striker62]

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[PoorRichRichard]

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It's not the safe handgun roster that affects the Taurus Judge. It's a felony to simply possess a Taurus Judge in California. That's a much stronger prohibition that the one created by the roster.

The problem with the Taurus Judge is that it meets California's state law definition of a Short Barrel Shotgun (even it it does not meet the federal law definition) and that makes the simple possession a felony under Penal Code section 33215.

Yes, and if memory servers me correctly, CA also does not allow shotguns with a revolving cylinder magazine. Not quite sure what their motive was here, but hell, it’s California…

 

[AR15barrels]

Yes, and if memory servers me correctly, CA also does not allow shotguns with a revolving cylinder magazine.
Not quite sure what there motive was here, but hell, it’s California…

The purpose of the "revolving cylinder shotgun" ban was to ban the Street Sweeper.