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The Price Check Thread

Yeah, inflation and a slow economy lately.

For me, it's a waiting game and I just post occasionally PPT ads to see who will bite. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

I did notice that for every one gun ad in NorCal, there is at least three more in SoCal.
I paid no joke $549 minus $150 rebate.

$400 new. Sellers with stupid prices on suicide watch
 
I paid no joke $549 minus $150 rebate.

$400 new. Sellers with stupid prices on suicide watch
Capitalism at it's best.

As unfortunate as it is, there is a limited number of used guns sold up in NorCal which then drives the average listing price by at least 25%.

I do find it funny sometimes when some sellers think their "custom slide/custom/barrel/stippling job" inflates the pricing of the firearm overall; laughable really.

Seller: "sir, you're telling me my G17.3 with non-OEM slide/barrel/pockmarked toothpicked frame from some brand that most wouldn't care to even Google is worth less off roster?!"

Buyer: yee 🤪 (y)

When the time comes where I'll sell my Glock models, the least I could do is to throw in a complete slide given recent legislation.
 
Capitalism at it's best.

As unfortunate as it is, there is a limited number of used guns sold up in NorCal which then drives the average listing price by at least 25%.

I do find it funny sometimes when some sellers think their "custom slide/custom/barrel/stippling job" inflates the pricing of the firearm overall; laughable really.

Seller: "sir, you're telling me my G17.3 with non-OEM slide/barrel/pockmarked toothpicked frame from some brand that most wouldn't care to even Google is worth less off roster?!"

Buyer: yee 🤪 (y)

When the time comes where I'll sell my Glock models, the least I could do is to throw in a complete slide given recent legislation.
Well priced stuff moves quickly. Also with beretta new owner gets the long warranty and it doesn’t transfer used
 
I have a Carver Custom G17 race gun I am thinking of selling (pic to follow). Maybe 500 rounds through it because the revo bug got me after it arrived. What kind of price should I list it for.
 

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Capitalism at it's best.

As unfortunate as it is, there is a limited number of used guns sold up in NorCal which then drives the average listing price by at least 25%.

I do find it funny sometimes when some sellers think their "custom slide/custom/barrel/stippling job" inflates the pricing of the firearm overall; laughable really.

Seller: "sir, you're telling me my G17.3 with non-OEM slide/barrel/pockmarked toothpicked frame from some brand that most wouldn't care to even Google is worth less off roster?!"

Buyer: yee 🤪 (y)

When the time comes where I'll sell my Glock models, the least I could do is to throw in a complete slide given recent legislation.

After they sold the OEM stuff for more than they paid for the aftermarket
 
How about a Walther P38? No import stamp, but also no take-home papers. All numbers matching with intact dirty chickens. Manufacturer/date stamp is Mauser 1943. Original finish okay, but not Gucci. Original black plastic (Bakelite?) grips. One original mag, two modern mags, and a reproduction holster that includes replica bad guy markings.
 
Anytime you get one of those questions or lowballs you know you are going to be dealing with a literal retard the whole process.
I am a bad salesman, but I've rarely been able to sell used stuff for what I listed it for. I've had disappointing experiences even getting rid of stuff for free on Facebook marketplace.

I think for someone that sells personal items infrequently or doesn't have a customer facing job, it can be jarring to see how the general public treats each other.

For the young man trying to sell his ruger rifle, the only feedback I have is prepare to be disappointed and remember to try and treat people with dignity and respect, even if they give offensively low offers.
 
I don't give dignity or respect to anyone who tries to lowball the lowest offered price across the whole state of CA.

Everyone who asked for lower price on my AR pistol I sold as Semi that I listed for 750 is never getting my money nor do I want any of their money in the future.

They don't deserve it.
 
Anyone know what used M9/92FS are going for these days?

I don't give dignity or respect to anyone who tries to lowball the lowest offered price across the whole state of CA.

Everyone who asked for lower price on my AR pistol I sold as Semi that I listed for 750 is never getting my money nor do I want any of their money in the future.

They don't deserve it.
That's a fair perspective, but does that mean you've never tried to negotiate for a lower price?

Can you be certain that offering $50 less than a posted price won't be perceived by the seller as an offensive low-ball?

I can appreciate the frustration of posting an item for what you think is a great deal and getting people offering 1/4 of that price, but I don't think that warrants writing those people off as not worthy of a polite rejection, or at the very least not responding to their message.

In the back of my mind is seeing posts on this thread and thinking "the people complaining about low balling, are they saying they have never ever tried to low ball someone?"

Then those thoughts go a step further "what is a low ball offer, is it %10 percent less than posted price? Is it anything lower than the posted price?"
 
That's a fair perspective, but does that mean you've never tried to negotiate for a lower price?

Can you be certain that offering $50 less than a posted price won't be perceived by the seller as an offensive low-ball?

I can appreciate the frustration of posting an item for what you think is a great deal and getting people offering 1/4 of that price, but I don't think that warrants writing those people off as not worthy of a polite rejection, or at the very least not responding to their message.

In the back of my mind is seeing posts on this thread and thinking "the people complaining about low balling, are they saying they have never ever tried to low ball someone?"

Then those thoughts go a step further "what is a low ball offer, is it %10 percent less than posted price? Is it anything lower than the posted price?"
There is a checkbox when you make the ad and you can designate "best offer" which implies you can make offers. I always post my stuff with haggling room baked in. But it's like 5%. I would say there is never a time where 25% lower is appropriate. Anything more than 10 is lowball. The thing is sometimes people definitely overvalue their stuff and that lowball is actually more in line with what it's worth but you won't get it for that, it never works.
 
That's a fair perspective, but does that mean you've never tried to negotiate for a lower price?

Can you be certain that offering $50 less than a posted price won't be perceived by the seller as an offensive low-ball?

I can appreciate the frustration of posting an item for what you think is a great deal and getting people offering 1/4 of that price, but I don't think that warrants writing those people off as not worthy of a polite rejection, or at the very least not responding to their message.

In the back of my mind is seeing posts on this thread and thinking "the people complaining about low balling, are they saying they have never ever tried to low ball someone?"

Then those thoughts go a step further "what is a low ball offer, is it %10 percent less than posted price? Is it anything lower than the posted price?"
I negotiated on lower price if the price was above retail or if there were other similar listings.

Most of time, you gotta make your own deals with what the seller may have listed.

I was going to buy 1 upper, then noticed seller had 2. Price was spectacular, I didn't need to deviate from what the seller was asking. I knew 1 upper is a damn good deal, but the seller having another? I quickly run the numbers in my head. I am a nationwide trader, so my market is greater than that of JUST CA. Bought both, sold 1 without the parts that made this a damn good deal, basically I got a 1500 setup for 350, which was the cost of 1 upper the seller was selling.

You ain't going to find a complete SSE for 750 in CA, private or retail, let alone be able to DROS a SEMI AR Pistol for 750.
 
I negotiated on lower price if the price was above retail or if there were other similar listings.

Most of time, you gotta make your own deals with what the seller may have listed.

I was going to buy 1 upper, then noticed seller had 2. Price was spectacular, I didn't need to deviate from what the seller was asking. I knew 1 upper is a damn good deal, but the seller having another? I quickly run the numbers in my head. I am a nationwide trader, so my market is greater than that of JUST CA. Bought both, sold 1 without the parts that made this a damn good deal, basically I got a 1500 setup for 350, which was the cost of 1 upper the seller was selling.

You ain't going to find a complete SSE for 750 in CA, private or retail, let alone be able to DROS a SEMI AR Pistol for 750.
You mentioned you're a nation wide trader. I've never had a sales job so my interaction with the public is limited.

If you sell items frequently, would you say your frustration for low ball offers comes from sheer volume of low ball offers received?

There is a call center department where I work and they're great guys, but even the experienced guys get fatigued and frustrated every once in a while with how customers treat the customer care agents.
 
I’m not trying to hijack this thread into an existential debate about AI. I will say as a tool to collate information quickly it’s been helpful giving me an idea of fair market value for used firearms. It can take into consideration things like round counts, regional price fluctuations, price variation based on version or serial number, recent sales on auction sites, the additional costs related to buying online, identify used online listings (places like turners) etc.

You can also ask things like where can I find the lowest cost on this new item locally, what rebates or military discounts are available for this gun, etc.

Nothing is 100% perfect, but it’s nice to have a number to start with and go from there.
 
I have a Carver Custom G17 race gun I am thinking of selling (pic to follow). Maybe 500 rounds through it because the revo bug got me after it arrived. What kind of price should I list it for.
Is that the build that can allegedly shoot 9 major?
 
I am a bad salesman, but I've rarely been able to sell used stuff for what I listed it for. I've had disappointing experiences even getting rid of stuff for free on Facebook marketplace.

I think for someone that sells personal items infrequently or doesn't have a customer facing job, it can be jarring to see how the general public treats each other.

For the young man trying to sell his ruger rifle, the only feedback I have is prepare to be disappointed and remember to try and treat people with dignity and respect, even if they give offensively low offers.
I own a retail business and it seems like in the last 5+ years the customer expectations have just become more and more ridiculous.
I literally heard this yesterday-
him-"I know it says $15,250 plus fees but i don't want to to pay more than $12k for it out the door"
me-"sir I would be loosing money if I did that, the price is set by the manufacturer"
him-"well if you want to sell it today that's the number"
me-"no thank you"
 
I’m not trying to hijack this thread into an existential debate about AI. I will say as a tool to collate information quickly it’s been helpful giving me an idea of fair market value for used firearms. It can take into consideration things like round counts, regional price fluctuations, price variation based on version or serial number, recent sales on auction sites, the additional costs related to buying online, identify used online listings (places like turners) etc.

You can also ask things like where can I find the lowest cost on this new item locally, what rebates or military discounts are available for this gun, etc.

Nothing is 100% perfect, but it’s nice to have a number to start with and go from there.
The problem is that AI isn't sccurate
 
I own a retail business and it seems like in the last 5+ years the customer expectations have just become more and more ridiculous.
I literally heard this yesterday-
him-"I know it says $15,250 plus fees but i don't want to to pay more than $12k for it out the door"
me-"sir I would be loosing money if I did that, the price is set by the manufacturer"
him-"well if you want to sell it today that's the number"
me-"no thank you"
Thank you for sharing, it's scary to see the price increases in electronic components over the past few years. Things I used to take for granted like costs of Micro SD cards and memory 😬
 
The great thing about Google’s built in AI is that like a good 9th grader, it cites references. You don’t have to take it at its word.
Google AI is pretty bad but ChatGPT 6 on high settings is getting scarily intelligent
 
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