The private party sale of uppers...

[charliewhiskey79]

I'm guessing we cannot sell uppers to each other thru this form unless there is an FFL to do so? Anyone know the deal with that?

Thanks in advance

 

[BLKARMS]

Upper receivers aren't classified as firearms. Just a part. So youre good brother. Unless there's some CAguns.net policy that deters people from selling uppers that im not aware of. But legally, youre solid.

 

[charliewhiskey79]

Thanks for the info. Makes sense.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

Barreled or not barreled? Are private non-commercial sales of barrels and barreled uppers not included in the FFL transfer requirement?

 

[Plenty_Pack_556]

First rule of fight club.

 

[Smittty]

Barreled or not barreled? Are private non-commercial sales of barrels and barreled uppers not included in the FFL transfer requirement?

Seriously?

No serial number, apply logic and stop yourself if you think you're going to police fellow gun owners.

 

[ShootFirstFirster]

First rule of fight club.

Deal carefully with trusted/vetted 2A community members

 

[DavidWick]

I hope we can, because Im looking for a piston upper

 

[Tere_Hanges]

No serial number, apply logic and stop yourself if you think you're going to police fellow gun owners.

I'm merely asking a question. Not at all implying any personal "policing" of others. You're way off if you think that's the basis of my question. My question is purely selfish in nature; I want to understand the scope of the law. My understanding does not in any way signal personal endorsement. Sorry if my question triggered you in some way. I do empathize that this law is ridiculous.

Yes, barrels are not typically a serialized part, however some gun makers do serialize barrels (Glock, HK, CZ). But that is irrelevant, as the new law appears to require sales of barrels to go through an FFL, serialized or not. What I want to confirm is whether this new law only applies to commercial sales or also applies to non-commercial private sales.

SB704:
"CHAPTER 11. Firearm Barrel
33700. (a) (1) A firearm barrel, as defined in Section 16525, shall not be sold or transferred unless that transaction is completed in person by a firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive.
(2) Commencing July 1, 2027, a firearm barrel, as defined in Section 16525, shall not be sold or transferred unless that transaction is completed in person by a firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, and the licensed firearms dealer has conducted an eligibility check to determine if that the person is authorized to purchase a firearm barrel under subdivision (b) in a manner prescribed by the Department of Justice.
(3) No person shall possess with the intent to sell or offer to sell a firearm barrel in violation of this section."

 

[Shredla]

Loose lips sink ships

 

[ikeo1]

In 2026, anything with barrels needs to be transferred at an FFL. You can list it, but you must transfer at an FFL. You agree to follow the laws that went into effect. We had to put in a compliance checkbox for this once you log in on NYE AND there's a checkbox when creating listings to comply with AB-1263.

 

[charliewhiskey79]

In 2026, anything with barrels needs to be transferred at an FFL. You can list it, but you must transfer at an FFL. You agree to follow the laws that went into effect. We had to put in a compliance checkbox for this once you log in on NYE AND there's a checkbox when creating listings to comply with AB-1263.

copy you. thanks for the clarification

 

[ikeo1]

One of the stores I use (and trust) said that if you're not a 'firearm industry member' and it's not ordered online from a 'firearm industry member', then it doesn't have to go through a store. Who's wrong here?

Ask a lawyer please, I can’t answer that

 

[xrMike]

SB704:
(2) Commencing July 1, 2027, a firearm barrel, as defined in Section 16525, shall not be sold or transferred unless that transaction is completed in person by a firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915,

In 2026, anything with barrels needs to be transferred at an FFL. You can list it, but you must transfer at an FFL. You agree to follow the laws that went into effect. We had to put in a compliance checkbox for this once you log in on NYE AND there's a checkbox when creating listings to comply with AB-1263.

So does this BS law go into effect 7/1/27 or 1/1/26?

There seems to be a discrepancy in the above posts, thanks.

Guess I can always have one of my friends in AZ order the next barreled upper I need, have it shipped to their house, and then ship to me.

If you do it legally, I assume the CA FFL is going to charge you the same fee they charge for a complete firearm purchase?

 

[Tere_Hanges]

So does this BS law go into effect 7/1/27 or 1/1/26?

There seems to be a discrepancy in the above posts, thanks.

Guess I can always have one of my friends in AZ order the next barreled upper I need, have it shipped to their house, and then ship to me.

If you do it legally, I assume the CA FFL is going to charge you the same fee they charge for a complete firearm purchase?

So the law actually has two effective dates. Even though the 1/1/26 date isn't explicitly stated, it is operative 1/1/26 by default. In short, all barrel sales/transfers have to go through a dealer beginning 1/1/26, but without a background check. I guess the dealer just receives the barrel from the seller and hands it to the buyer. There is no requirement for the dealer to record any information about the transaction, check ID or anything other than transfer the barrel. It's as stupid as it sounds. Background checks on barrels start 7/1/27. So on 7/1/27, dealers will have to record information on barrel transfers and conduct background checks.

 

[Deleted member 9396]

hopefully ya'll scooped up some goodies b4 the 1st?.... my family and friends sure did

Calguns always kept us ahead of the new bans and new gun grabber commie bs laws that were on the horizon-
very Glad this site did the same this time...cheers, bros

sb704 was a for sure thing -- no surprise there-- everybody knew that was 1000% going to be law.

and you best believe it's just gonna get worse from here, fellerz.
stay firsty my friends

 

[SDDAVE56]

From SIG when I tried to order a 10 round magazine for my P365, today.

"California Residents: Due to new restrictions, this product is temporarily unavailable in your area".

 

[LarpAnonymous]

I spoke with 2 FFLs in my area (Sac Black Rifle & Sac Gun Range) and both said private party transfers of uppers were business as usual as it was PPT and no FFL to individual.

They said they would have them sign the disclosure papers and verify ID, and hand them the upper, but its not necessary at this time.

It seems everyone is still confused on how to proceed...