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There’s been a shooting at the Islamic center of SD. Shooters and security guard killed. 4 minute response time by PD.

abc7.com

San Diego Islamic Center shooting suspect apparently posted video of attack: Sources

Hours before Monday's attack police were racing to find the two teenagers who would ultimately be deemed responsible.
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In a later portion of the video, sources said the person believed to be Clark can be seen reaching into the backseat of the vehicle and then shooting Vazquez, before chambering a second round and taking his own life.

A Sonnenrad patch, depicting a neo-🥨 symbol, and what analysts assess is likely a patch for a militant accelerationist group, are both visible on the plate carrier being worn by the person believed to be Clark, according to sources. Additionally, writings are visible on a gun, including drawings of SS bolts and neo-🥨 insignias, sources said.

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Been seeing a lot about this on facebook. People have really gone full retard, claiming this was "evil Christian terrorists" and "all the deranged right wingers will just blame mental health". My question is, how is something like this NOT a mental heath problem? Regardless of whatever their twisted motivation was or whatever stupid ideology they believed in, or regardless of whatever people think the right response is to these events, these two little 💩s decided to go out and murder people, then took their own lives. If that isn't a sign of mental illness, what is? Are people claiming someone going out and murdering strangers (followed by taking their own lives) is a sane thing to do, so long as they do it with love in their hearts? We are unfortunately in a society that now encourages various forms of mental illness as "brave", and that combined with a 24/7 news cycle that does nothing but rile everyone up and spread hate and anger towards each other, this kinda crap is bound to keep happening.

I do feel bad for the parents. From what it sounds like, the mother of one of them called the police earlier that morning and reported that her mentally ill son had stolen firearms and her car and had bad intentions. Unfortunately law enforcement wasn't able to track them down before the event took place.
 
Yeah it is mental health. It just is not an easily solved thing so people don't want to address the root causes. He was not even going to regular school, just online. Not sure if the transgender thing is a rumor or not, most info is buried. The fact that MSM is moving on pretty fast makes it seem more likely that something like that is going on. If it was a regular white kid neo-🥨 they would be blasting this everywhere for weeks. The other shooter being latino also hurts left wing agenda/IDPOL
 
ReaperCustom45 said:
Been seeing a lot about this on facebook. People have really gone full retard, claiming this was "evil Christian terrorists" and "all the deranged right wingers will just blame mental health". My question is, how is something like this NOT a mental heath problem? Regardless of whatever their twisted motivation was or whatever stupid ideology they believed in, or regardless of whatever people think the right response is to these events, these two little 💩s decided to go out and murder people, then took their own lives. If that isn't a sign of mental illness, what is? Are people claiming someone going out and murdering strangers (followed by taking their own lives) is a sane thing to do, so long as they do it with love in their hearts? We are unfortunately in a society that now encourages various forms of mental illness as "brave", and that combined with a 24/7 news cycle that does nothing but rile everyone up and spread hate and anger towards each other, this kinda crap is bound to keep happening.

I do feel bad for the parents. From what it sounds like, the mother of one of them called the police earlier that morning and reported that her mentally ill son had stolen firearms and her car and had bad intentions. Unfortunately law enforcement wasn't able to track them down before the event took place.
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If i can comment on the "right winger just blaming mental health" part, its cause you can find a certain subset that will blame ALL of one group if they happen to be of a certain, political view or race or gender identity, but when its part of "their side" its purely a mental health issue and not because of their whole group that they identify with similar beliefs. Like above you can see it happening in this thread


Gawernator said:
Yeah it is mental health. It just is not an easily solved thing so people don't want to address the root causes. He was not even going to regular school, just online. Not sure if the transgender thing is a rumor or not, most info is buried. The fact that MSM is moving on pretty fast makes it seem more likely that something like that is going on. If it was a regular white kid neo-🥨 they would be blasting this everywhere for weeks. The other shooter being latino also hurts left wing agenda/IDPOL
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Latinos are very common amongst neo-🥨 believers for some reason. Its kind of funny in a dark humor way. But the whole "left wing agenda" goes to my earlier comments in this very reply 🤠
 
Gawernator said:
Yeah it is mental health. It just is not an easily solved thing so people don't want to address the root causes. He was not even going to regular school, just online. Not sure if the transgender thing is a rumor or not, most info is buried. The fact that MSM is moving on pretty fast makes it seem more likely that something like that is going on. If it was a regular white kid neo-🥨 they would be blasting this everywhere for weeks. The other shooter being latino also hurts left wing agenda/IDPOL
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Yeah, and that's the kinda crap that is sad. Media only cares when they can use it to push their agenda, otherwise it gets buried and forgotten within a week. It's not an easily solvable problem, but that doesn't mean the solution is to ignore it and pretend the problem is something else, like guns. Mentally ill is mentally ill, as we've seen in countries with strict gun laws, they will simply use another means to hurt people. Japan had a mass stabbing a few years back with 19 dead and over 25 others wounded. That's worse than most "mass shootings" we've had in this country, and the guy did it with a knife.
grandpapeepap said:
If i can comment on the "right winger just blaming mental health" part, its cause you can find a certain subset that will blame ALL of one group if they happen to be of a certain, political view or race or gender identity, but when its part of "their side" its purely a mental health issue and not because of their whole group that they identify with similar beliefs. Like above you can see it happening in this thread



Latinos are very common amongst neo-🥨 believers for some reason. Its kind of funny in a dark humor way. But the whole "left wing agenda" goes to my earlier comments in this very reply 🤠
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Unfortunately yes, both sides like to play the blame game. The reality is that mentally ill people exist on all sides. One specific group of people is not responsible for everything bad that happens, but that doesn't make for good ratings. I'll admit, I do agree that certain groups are more prone to commit violent acts either towards themselves or others, but that boils down to whether you believe certain things are classified as a mental illness. I won't get too deep into that because the reality is that even then, it's not a blanket statement. There is no single group that we can point a finger at and say "they are the problem", it's a societal problem at this point, and one that won't be solved as long as people buy into whatever their favorite media outlet is spewing. People like to hate too much nowadays, and the internet provides them with plenty of fuel.
 
ReaperCustom45 said:
Yeah, and that's the kinda crap that is sad. Media only cares when they can use it to push their agenda, otherwise it gets buried and forgotten within a week. It's not an easily solvable problem, but that doesn't mean the solution is to ignore it and pretend the problem is something else, like guns. Mentally ill is mentally ill, as we've seen in countries with strict gun laws, they will simply use another means to hurt people. Japan had a mass stabbing a few years back with 19 dead and over 25 others wounded. That's worse than most "mass shootings" we've had in this country, and the guy did it with a knife.

Unfortunately yes, both sides like to play the blame game. The reality is that mentally ill people exist on all sides. One specific group of people is not responsible for everything bad that happens, but that doesn't make for good ratings. I'll admit, I do agree that certain groups are more prone to commit violent acts either towards themselves or others, but that boils down to whether you believe certain things are classified as a mental illness. I won't get too deep into that because the reality is that even then, it's not a blanket statement. There is no single group that we can point a finger at and say "they are the problem", it's a societal problem at this point, and one that won't be solved as long as people buy into whatever their favorite media outlet is spewing. People like to hate too much nowadays, and the internet provides them with plenty of fuel.
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According to their 75 page manifesto he didn't identify with left or right wing, but a "third wing" some deal like that
 
ReaperCustom45 said:
Yeah, and that's the kinda crap that is sad. Media only cares when they can use it to push their agenda, otherwise it gets buried and forgotten within a week. It's not an easily solvable problem, but that doesn't mean the solution is to ignore it and pretend the problem is something else, like guns. Mentally ill is mentally ill, as we've seen in countries with strict gun laws, they will simply use another means to hurt people. Japan had a mass stabbing a few years back with 19 dead and over 25 others wounded. That's worse than most "mass shootings" we've had in this country, and the guy did it with a knife.

Unfortunately yes, both sides like to play the blame game. The reality is that mentally ill people exist on all sides. One specific group of people is not responsible for everything bad that happens, but that doesn't make for good ratings. I'll admit, I do agree that certain groups are more prone to commit violent acts either towards themselves or others, but that boils down to whether you believe certain things are classified as a mental illness. I won't get too deep into that because the reality is that even then, it's not a blanket statement. There is no single group that we can point a finger at and say "they are the problem", it's a societal problem at this point, and one that won't be solved as long as people buy into whatever their favorite media outlet is spewing. People like to hate too much nowadays, and the internet provides them with plenty of fuel.
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A lot of people like to treat it like a team sport, its sad and the media and youtubers now a days fuel the rage bait for content and engagement because thats how they make money. Ideologically captured people on both sides. 🤠
 
www.nbcnews.com

San Diego mosque suspects’ writings reveal influence of online extremism, experts say

A 75-page document and a livestreamed video apparently created by the gunmen echo previous shootings fueled by extremist ideology.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

Authorities looking into the motivation behind the shooting are working to authenticate the lengthy typewritten document, which is filled with vitriol about Muslims, Jewish people, Black people, Latino people, the LGBTQ community, women and various other identity groups. The document features 🥨 iconography and explicit references to accelerationism

This is from today, dropped like a bad habit for sure :unsure:
 
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