Thorsden anyone?

[Trukinbear]

Has anyone else taken this approach to a Featureless AR build, instead of those dreadful 'fin' grips?

Thorsden FRS 15 gen 2 'not a pistol grip' stock
Thorsden FDS 15 'not a stock' cheekrest
TAC fire linear compensator
BA stainless 16" .223 Wylde

Feels very natural, mimics the stock profile of the venerable M1 Carbine.

 

[RustVendor]

F- no the fin is way better than that mostrosity

 

[Trukinbear]

F- no the fin is way better than that mostrosity

I can't stand the fin, and this feels like the M1 Carbine I trained with at military school. I've tried the fin, have you tried a Thorsden? Or even seen one before?

 

[RustVendor]

I can't stand the fin, and this feels like the M1 Carbine I trained with at military school. I've tried the fin, have you tried a Thorsden? Or even seen one before?

Yeah those were super popular like 8 years ago. my friend had one I've tried it. If you like it you like it so that's all that matters. Personally I would take the juggernaut grip over that, it's basically the same thing just minus a bunch of tubing. I will say this, the trigger hand doesn't steer the rifle, thays done by the support hand on the handguard. But like I said if you like it that's all that matters.

 

[k02ak]

Im going to oust my self and say that I received one for the SDI gunsmith class, built the AR with that stock and I would say it is not comfortable. Ive fired 308 bolt actions with normal stocks and pump actions with normal stocks and those are more comfortable than that stock.

 

[saudadeii]

I've seen a few around. As said above they were more popular some years ago but there weren't many other options back then. If you like it, then that's all that matters.

I have fins on some mine. A couple have the Sparrow Dynamics grip. https://www.sparrowdynamics.com/Featureless-Grip-AR-p/crg-15.htm

Bear in mind that Alan Thordsen, the creator of this, retired last year. If you have an issue or breakage, finding support and/or replacement parts may be difficult.

THORDSEN CUSTOMS

thordsencustoms.com

 

[Trukinbear]

I will admit it isn't for everyone, and the Juggernaut is a viable option. It is very short length of pull speaking, and may be too short for taller shooters... but then I'm short.

I absolutely can't shoot with a 'fin' grip (without a drill, and Dremel LOL jk). I just can't seem to shoot with my arthritic thumb facing the sky, and my hand merely pressed to the grip. Imagine trying to shoot a pistol so equipped - who needs the tip of their thumb anyway? My best workaround so far was to build another in 22WMR. Rimfire, it can have almost anything you want. ALMOST

 

[RustVendor]

I will admit it isn't for everyone, and the Juggernaut is a viable option. It is very short length of pull speaking, and may be too short for taller shooters... but then I'm short.

I absolutely can't shoot with a 'fin' grip (without a drill, and Dremel LOL jk). I just can't seem to shoot with my arthritic thumb facing the sky, and my hand merely pressed to the grip. Imagine trying to shoot a pistol so equipped - who needs the tip of their thumb anyway? My best workaround so far was to build another in 22WMR. Rimfire, it can have almost anything you want. ALMOST

Just some food for thought about grip fins, here is Reno shooting a carbine match with one this summer. next time you shoot try something: brab the rifle with your support hand and leave your trigger hand off, find the balance point where you can steer with your support hand and use just enough rear pressure to stabilize. If you pull back too much the recoil will pull the rifle likely to the right but the right amount of pressure and it will go up but then return to the same spot. Now just place your trigger hand on without pulling rearward. That's all the grip pressure you need or want with that hand. if you look at PRS shooters those rifles are all set up so that your thumb stays on the same side as the hand, and they don't even need a grip fin because it's a bolt action. Anyway there's no one right way to do anything but learning how to hold a carbine makes a lot of difference in how well it shoots.

 

[Hindsight]

JT is about the best for featureless, but it’s heavy. They sadly have no plans to produce a polymer one for some reason.

Reno is of the opinion the ledesma grip is legal in part because they’ve been around so long, supposedly have been sold as part of full rifle builds, in major stores, DoJ auditors have seen them, etc.

Up to you to decide. The ledesma is a less in your face approach to the flip defense grip and the DOJ tends to move very quickly on C&D and stuff like that when they make a determination on their own.

 

[CAshooter]

I had an AR15 with a Thorsden stock about 10 years ago. I didn’t like it because I have larger hands and had difficulty gripping the stock. IIRC, it was the web of my right hand that rubbed and hurt after a little bit of shooting. Ended up selling it during Covid cuz I had several others.

 

[Trapper]

Two of my rifles shipped with Thordsen stocks. Doubt I'll change them until I'm out of California.

 

[Trukinbear]

Just some food for thought about grip fins, here is Reno shooting a carbine match with one this summer. next time you shoot try something: brab the rifle with your support hand and leave your trigger hand off, find the balance point where you can steer with your support hand and use just enough rear pressure to stabilize. If you pull back too much the recoil will pull the rifle likely to the right but the right amount of pressure and it will go up but then return to the same spot. Now just place your trigger hand on without pulling rearward. That's all the grip pressure you need or want with that hand. if you look at PRS shooters those rifles are all set up so that your thumb stays on the same side as the hand, and they don't even need a grip fin because it's a bolt action. Anyway there's no one right way to do anything but learning how to hold a carbine makes a lot of difference in how well it shoots.

I might be able to force myself to shoot like that, but in a high stress situation I'm going to revert to the way I've trained for 5+ decades. I'm too old, and trained to the point of muscle memory to learn to shoot with an artificial handicap... an absolutely avoidable artificial handicap, but I guess I'd be ready if I got my thumb shot off. ;-)

 

[TheAverageShooter]

I put the gen3 I think on my M&P 15 and it actually feels very natural. Like a normal rifle stock.

Had it for years and no issues.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

F- no the fin is way better than that mostrosity

Agreed. Just for chits and giggles, I tried a Thorsden that I found super cheap at a gunshop in Reno. Didnt like it at all. I prefer a simple B5 featureless grip and fixed carbine stock. I never shoot an AR just by holding it by the grip anyway. So not being able to wrap my thumb around the grip is irrelevant.

 

[M_N04H]

I only have the cheek rest for my AR pistol as a stand by, but hasn't been installed

 

[Gawernator]

Has anyone else taken this approach to a Featureless AR build, instead of those dreadful 'fin' grips?

Thorsden FRS 15 gen 2 'not a pistol grip' stock
Thorsden FDS 15 'not a stock' cheekrest
TAC fire linear compensator
BA stainless 16" .223 Wylde

Feels very natural, mimics the stock profile of the venerable M1 Carbine.

I'd rather go to jail again than run that

 

[k02ak]

I'd rather go to jail again than run that

Very fair response