Upgrading Glock trigger ?

[Tere_Hanges]

I had a Timney in a Glock 34 for a while but took it out because I wanted all my Glocks to be 100% reliable as self defense guns. And I don't trust any aftermarket parts, not even premium brand-name parts. I only trust factory Glock parts.

Instead of putting in a lighter trigger, I started buying more ammo and shooting more often. Now I can shoot better than before and don't really need a lighter trigger.

 

[sjb323]

I had a Timney in a Glock 34 for a while but took it out because I wanted all my Glocks to be 100% reliable as self defense guns. And I don't trust any aftermarket parts, not even premium brand-name parts. I only trust factory Glock parts.

Can't argue with that. The most unreliable guns at a USPSA match are Glocks that have been "upgraded". It's always the guys that change parts just for the sake of changing parts that have issues. The Gucci Glocks have infinitely more issues than most open guns! If there is something about an otherwise good gun that you just can't live with, fix that one thing and leave the rest alone!

Instead of putting in a lighter trigger, I started buying more ammo and shooting more often. Now I can shoot better than before and don't really need a lighter trigger.

No way! Everyone knows that skill with a pistol is achieved with slide cuts and extended magazine releases!

 

[Tere_Hanges]

Can't argue with that. The most unreliable guns at a USPSA match are Glocks that have been "upgraded". It's always the guys that change parts just for the sake of changing parts that have issues. The Gucci Glocks have infinitely more issues than most open guns! If there is something about an otherwise good gun that you just can't live with, fix that one thing and leave the rest alone!

Yeah I'll never buy a used Glock with a bunch of "upgraded" aftermarket parts. I'll ask the seller if they will put the original parts back in and they can keep all the "upgraded" parts cause im not paying for them, they hold zero value to me. That goes for most used guns Im interested in. I like guns with factory parts.

 

[2aALLIn]

Can't argue with that. The most unreliable guns at a USPSA match are Glocks that have been "upgraded". It's always the guys that change parts just for the sake of changing parts that have issues. The Gucci Glocks have infinitely more issues than most open guns! If there is something about an otherwise good gun that you just can't live with, fix that one thing and leave the rest alone!


No way! Everyone knows that skill with a pistol is achieved with slide cuts and extended magazine releases!

Reminds me of —- skip to 2:03

Instead of putting in a lighter trigger, I started buying more ammo and shooting more often. Now I can shoot better than before and don't really need a lighter trigger.

 

[RustVendor]

If you know what you are doing then plenty of aftermarket parts are just as reliable as OEM. Apex and Overwatch triggers, where you are essentially just replacing the shoe and connector, are extremely reliable. Extended controls are extremely reliable etc. Aftermarket slides are notorious for not going into battery, they ust don't slide as well. Sure you can keep it stock but the thing is, you don't have to. You can improve the takeup and pull weight and just have a nicer experience while maintaining the same level of reliability. The reality is that in modern terms, gen 3 glocks are extremely mediocre stock compared to everything that came out after it which is why gen 5 has improved on all of them from the mag release to the grip to the trigger.

 

[Malibu]

If you know what you are doing then plenty of aftermarket parts are just as reliable as OEM. Apex and Overwatch triggers, where you are essentially just replacing the shoe and connector, are extremely reliable. Extended controls are extremely reliable etc. Aftermarket slides are notorious for not going into battery, they ust don't slide as well. Sure you can keep it stock but the thing is, you don't have to. You can improve the takeup and pull weight and just have a nicer experience while maintaining the same level of reliability. The reality is that in modern terms, gen 3 glocks are extremely mediocre stock compared to everything that came out after it which is why gen 5 has improved on all of them from the mag release to the grip to the trigger.

Which begs an interesting question: would manufacturers who produce a lot of upgrades oppose an end to the California Roster, as that might decrease the “need” for some of their items? I do suspect that no matter what happens legislatively there will always be some demand for aftermarket parts. If Glock for example were to drop all the Gen 3-4 models, how many shooters would be satisfied with newer versions as completely stock? We won’t know unless it happens. In that sense we could be waiting a few more decades~.

 

[ikeo1]

If Glock for example were to drop all the Gen 3-4 models, how many shooters would be satisfied with newer versions as completely stock? We won’t know unless it happens. In that sense we could be waiting a few more decades~.

I think we've seen with the Sig P320 platform people love to modify their guns. As long as theres good aftermarket support people will buy, a lot of times to make it your own. Also I think most people don't shoot regularly and modifications are an easy way to personalize your firearm. For Glock specifically, i think they had their time 2010-2020 and now that we have all the new additions there's a new wave of competent firearms. The fact, that many come with optics cut, means less people doing slide mills or 3rd party slides. Trigger systems improving. These days you only really need ammo and range time.

These days, I try to run mostly stock configuration. The only changes are grips, and recoil spring. The manufacturers are finally getting better at stock triggers so a full replacement is not as necessary on modern firearms. I'm talking about Canik, Walther, Glock performance, M&P. You don't need to change things out to perform well like in the past.

I think there's a renaissance of 2A now and its one of the reasons I decided to start the site. I saw the changes with the roster additions and new blood coming in after 2020. We're at the beginning of what I think can be another strong period for 2A.

also forgot to mention, glocks are ugly. New guns are so much sexier.

 

[Ktsatriya]

What I have found is that if you are competing you can get a better trigger but it will cost you around $150-$250 and you don’t gain very much performance. The Timney is my new favorite. Ultimately what I have found is that I shoot the stock triggers just as well. I just polish the parts a little. My expensive Gucci G17 Gen 3 with a KKM barrel and all Zev parts is not better than my stock G34 Gen 3 in terms of accuracy or speed. It is slightly more accurate than my stock G19 Gen 3 or Gen 4. I think the longer sight radius of the G34 makes the most difference. Now I put red dots my G17 Gen 3 and G19 Gen 3. I’ve been using them for self defense and went back to stock internals. In summary you can squeeze a little more performance for competition from an upgraded trigger but you have to decide if it’s worth it. The Timney seems to hit that price point for me.

 

[sjb323]

I think we've seen with the Sig P320 platform people love to modify their guns. As long as theres good aftermarket support people will buy, a lot of times to make it your own. Also I think most people don't shoot regularly and modifications are an easy way to personalize your firearm. For Glock specifically, i think they had their time 2010-2020 and now that we have all the new additions there's a new wave of competent firearms. The fact, that many come with optics cut, means less people doing slide mills or 3rd party slides. Trigger systems improving. These days you only really need ammo and range time.

These days, I try to run mostly stock configuration. The only changes are grips, and recoil spring. The manufacturers are finally getting better at stock triggers so a full replacement is not as necessary on modern firearms. I'm talking about Canik, Walther, Glock performance, M&P. You don't need to change things out to perform well like in the past.

I think there's a renaissance of 2A now and its one of the reasons I decided to start the site. I saw the changes with the roster additions and new blood coming in after 2020. We're at the beginning of what I think can be another strong period for 2A.

also forgot to mention, glocks are ugly. New guns are so much sexier.

That's definitely true. Both my plastic and metal PDP's have some great factory triggers, and for just a $17 spring kit, those triggers are great! Even though Glock is still probably the gold standard for reliability, but in terms of shootability, there are some better options out there now -- especially if action pistol is your game.