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Weird or no PPT - Unhelpful shop rules

Yeah these shops just don’t want to deal with PPTs it’s low hanging fruit for them. They are restricted from gouging you per DOJ rules and find it more of a hassle.

They set these ridiculous times/ hour windows to skirt ATF rules that state they have to offer PPT services. So maybe this is something that needs to be escalated to local and state officials.

Also bring a lock with a receipt within a 30 day window. LGS loves forcing a $10 lock you can get for free from any Police station.

I started using a pawnshop whenever I buy used or transfer. The pawn shop has a lot of cool items and even carry 2a stuff that the local LGS s might not have.
 
I among those that have been hosed at PPT time. I traveled approx 350 miles each way to see an old friend that wanted me to have a couple of nice handguns I'd sold him many years ago.
The FFL wanted the $47.19 for each revolver, and another $10 on top of that. When I asked, they used the excuse they don't make much. I offered to buy something new from their inventory to sweeten the deal. They still overcharged me. The revo's are S&W pre-hole, one of them kind of special, and my friend lived close, so I went along. I found it funny that they insisted I buy locks "because the law requires it."
This place is Rooster's Firearms in Templeton. They put up a good front, but will hose you if there is a way to do so.
 
Can someone recommend a good FFL to PPT around Pasadena? This is a halfway point between seller and buyer and neither of us knows the area very well, and we are not trying to use Turners. Thanks!
 
Would bite the bullet and travel to Burbank. Magnolia is literally lined w gun shops that are for the most part ppt friendly. Turners Pasadena is painful.
Thank you!! I'll take a look.

any gun shop in Burbank you personally would recommend?
 
Thank you!! I'll take a look.

any gun shop in Burbank you personally would recommend?
Really I haven’t had problems at any of them. Guns, direct, Burbank, ammo and guns, etc. fastest PPT of my life was at guns direct. If you get the owner, he blazes through them.

Burbank ammo and guns is probably the most fun to window shop and of course the most dangerous to your wallet
 
Just did a PPT at Solar Tactical in Castro Valley this past Saturday - Buyer and I were fully aware of the "first hour only for PPT" rule; arrived early and was first in line before the shop opened. It went seamlessly and the staff was pleasant to deal with.

We should really have a sticky or guide on this site for all FFLs and their PPT policies/ratings. I used to have a long list of preferred FFLs, but since most of them have changed their stance/willingness to take PPTs, that list has since dwindled down to only a handful.

@ikeo1 - thoughts?
 
I'd love an FFL list that we could drop reviews for, especially for general pricing, ppt favorability + bs fees, transfer fees, and hours. If we could have something that we could click an FFL and see recent reviews that would be amazing. Maybe a prompt to leave an FFL review in the classified section once something's marked sold?
 
I'd love an FFL list that we could drop reviews for, especially for general pricing, ppt favorability + bs fees, transfer fees, and hours. If we could have something that we could click an FFL and see recent reviews that would be amazing. Maybe a prompt to leave an FFL review in the classified section once something's marked sold?

100% agree - maybe we can add that as another optional line item when submitting transaction details which gets populated into a separate page/speadsheet that shows which FFLs are best for PPTs and which one to avoid. I'm sure that will streamline a lot of transactions for the classified section.

Tagging @ikeo1 again.
 
I have a gun store that I can walk to, but one time I had an appointment for a PPT, they turned us away because both me and the buyer needed to have separate appointments. WTF. Just left a bad taste in my mouth and I haven't been back. I really wanted to like them.
 
Thank you!! I'll take a look.

any gun shop in Burbank you personally would recommend?

I recently had an excellent PPT experience with LA Firearm Supplies, also on Magnolia Blvd. Previously did PPTs at Guns Direct which is solid, but they seem to be pretty busy now. Was turned away from Guns Direct because they stop PPTs after a certain time in the afternoon, and went down the street to LA Firearm supplies and was taken care of.
 
Just did a PPT at Solar Tactical in Castro Valley this past Saturday - Buyer and I were fully aware of the "first hour only for PPT" rule; arrived early and was first in line before the shop opened. It went seamlessly and the staff was pleasant to deal with.

We should really have a sticky or guide on this site for all FFLs and their PPT policies/ratings. I used to have a long list of preferred FFLs, but since most of them have changed their stance/willingness to take PPTs, that list has since dwindled down to only a handful.

@ikeo1 - thoughts?
I have a system setup for this but I need people to start populating it. I’ll get it started again with the FFL’s I’ve dealt with.

Maybe I can break it down into regions as well. Give me some time and I’ll come back to this thread. I’ve been wanting something like this so I can match FFL’s with people close by.

We actually had @Solar Tactical sign up as a vendor here. I’d like to get the word out, so that they can setup shop here and promote their services for you guys.
 
I recently had an excellent PPT experience with LA Firearm Supplies, also on Magnolia Blvd. Previously did PPTs at Guns Direct which is solid, but they seem to be pretty busy now. Was turned away from Guns Direct because they stop PPTs after a certain time in the afternoon, and went down the street to LA Firearm supplies and was taken care of.
Oh yeah forgot about that. They don’t do ppt after 330pm or something at guns direct. Again, i literally did a 8 min PPT there once. Yes it helps i have a CCW and was the purchaser, but still. LIGHTNING fast. I avoid being in Burbank in the afternoon due to traffic personally so doesn’t affect me. Also the shops tend to be busier then. I like hitting them right when they open. After rush hour and usually not busy yet. In the afternoon all the shops on magnolia are busier and you can end up waiting quite a bit.

Burbank Ammo and Guns probably has the best window shopping and has a SOLID consignment section. They also usually have some nice high end 1911s too. Les Baer, nighthawk etc. they get busy tho fast and it’s a crowded shop with that big ammo section and it’s literally floor to ceiling guns.

Yeah did a PPT at LA Firearm supplies recently. They were chill, not a lot to window shop tho

OTHER NON BURBANK EXPERIENCES

Capital Tactical in ?Hawthorne? LA South Bay Area. Roomy shop. Ok window shopping usually not very busy. I think they also dont do PPT after 330pm. But nice guys.

Have done PPT at 2azone in upland several times. Highly recommend making an appointment. They get busy. Also they got cool stuff since they are also a ffl07. Lots of 2011s to shop. Pistol HK MP5 variants. AR pistols etc. would avoid their consignment section. WAY overpriced.

Ammo Bros Cerritos. Yes they do them. But DAMN turner’s like slowness. Like I couldn’t tell what was going on and taking so long. Giant store tho plenty to look at and they seem to be on the front end of knowing what’s coming to the roster etc. In general i dont wanna go there again.

Fowler’s Gun Room somewhere near Anaheim. The times ive been there not busy and easy to do a PPT. Reasonably efficient. They have a solid reloading section, and definitely get some cool guns in (check their insta feed)

On the west side of LA there’s pretty much only one FFL01 left. Beverly Hills Guns. It’s a one man show so HIGHLY recommend making an appointment on his website and pre populating your info by “registering” on his website. Makes things much faster. He’s mostly a concierge transfer guy but will do PPTs. Also if you are on the Westside of LA he will help you walk your way through a CCW. Again MAKE an appointment cause some of his clients…..they take forever and it’s only him. He has some nice couches to wait on but there’s really nothing to window shop etc. although nice view out his office (it’s literally an office in an office building)

Recently when ive been up at Oaktree in Santa Clarita there hasn’t been anyone in line so doing a PPT there a couple times relatively recently has been easy but in the past it’s been like….super long waits. They aren’t Turner’s level slow at doing them, but they aren’t very fast. I would allow 45 min once you start. Also they wont do C&R transfers (ie let you take it home same day if you have FFL03 and COE) which was super annoying once.

On Target down in Laguna Niguel/Lake Forest area south OC I’ve done several PPTs. Very nice about it. What’s cool is they are also a gun range so after you pick up, wander over to the range, give the gun a quick cleaning/go over and try it out! They also tend to have a solid consignment section and they honor C&R licenses
 
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I'm noticing a new trend with FFL's / shops being as unhelpful as they can with Private Party Transfers. One day a week, only by very limited appointment...you name it. Specifically, in my area:
City Arms - By appointment...called today on the 8th and their next appointment is for the 22nd??? I've been in there on a weekday...I know damn well it's not busy.
Solar Tactical - Only the first hour of the day
East Bay Firearms - Only on Thursdays

I'm a BIG believer in supporting those who support me. I buy maybe 50/50 used vs new guns, and I can tell you, if you're not helping me with my used guns, you won't be helping me with my new ones either. Many times I've been in a shop to do a PPT and had something catch my eye and ended up buying that too, but if you never even get me in the door...

What other shops do you know that have weird or unhelpful rules with their PPT's? How about good shops to deal with? Lets call 'em all out.

PPT’s take too long to do and don’t move inventory. The gun has to be stored for at least 10 days. It’s not worth the effort.
 
PPT’s take too long to do and don’t move inventory. The gun has to be stored for at least 10 days. It’s not worth the effort.
I get that the PPT itself is a money loser. the key is the window-shopping that occurs while you are doing the PPT and the goodwill. probably 1/3 of the time Ive done a PPT ive ended up buying something from the shop as well
 
I have a system setup for this but I need people to start populating it. I’ll get it started again with the FFL’s I’ve dealt with.

Maybe I can break it down into regions as well. Give me some time and I’ll come back to this thread. I’ve been wanting something like this so I can match FFL’s with people close by.

We actually had @Solar Tactical sign up as a vendor here. I’d like to get the word out, so that they can setup shop here and promote their services for you guys.

That would be a great feature.

Some shops are withing blocks of each other and I'd go to one but not the other. Good shops should be noted for their great service and bad shops should be outed so other people don't have to deal with their issues.

If a Good/Bad FFL thread come out, I'll contribute my many PPT transactions I've had over the last 30+ years in SoCal.

Matt
 
In the East Bay I used solar tactical. Was easy with an appointment .For the FFL they make $10 a pop. I always buy something in the shop and mention " I know you guys don't make 💩 on ppt". Buy some ammo, a mag or two. Support the local guys
 
If a Good/Bad FFL thread come out, I'll contribute my many PPT transactions I've had over the last 30+ years in SoCal.
100% agree - maybe we can add that as another optional line item when submitting transaction details which gets populated into a separate page/speadsheet that shows which FFLs are best for PPTs and which one to avoid. I'm sure that will streamline a lot of transactions for the classified section.

Tagging @ikeo1 again.


I spent the last few hours getting this setup. I have a problem with the address but the rest of it works for now. If you guys want to give it a shot and populate it with some FFL's to start. We can start to get the reviews going.

If the owner sets up shop, then they can claim their business and I'll transfer it over.

FFL Reviews


Example.


So it goes in two parts..

Step 1. Setup the Business/FFL
1.) Enter in the FFL details and what they offer

Step 2. Write a Review
2.) Write a review.

Whoever helps me with entering FFL's will get a coupon for 2 months of CA Supporter & also get the contributor badge that removes the edit time limit.

Add 10 5 FFL's to qualify for this. Before you start adding a bunch though, let me know when you do so I can check. Also take notes on what would make your life easier.

Users can then bookmark their preferred FFL and use the shortcode in the listing.

UG Imports

CAguns Preferred  UG Imports

A multi-service FFL in the Fremont Area.
 
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