What’s wrong with this picture?

[cobian1984]

Always a bit amusing - though also a bit concerning - when I see someone posting social media reels of their range session trying to look like a badass, and then I get a load of their grip…

Like why don’t people take a moment to stop being so damn worried about the socials and actually practice some fundamentals?

What are some of the worst/weirdest/sloppiest things you’ve witnessed at a shooting range?

 

[grandpapeepap]

is that a bird tattoo on her right hand

 

[weaverftw]

Someone posted a video of a cop (officer Jiminez) shooting a dude on the ground while her partner wrestled with him (was charged with murder as she pretty much executed him and fired a second shot into him for NO reason) and her grip on the pistol made it seem like she’d never held a gun before. Support hand HOLDING the slide, hovering around the back of the slide, etc… honestly looked like she didn’t know how a semi auto pistol even operates. Scary

 

[Hindsight]

I tend to focus more on the results/outcomes (at least for social media type posts) - what does their target look like after the shots, what was the drill/course of fire, time on the shot timer - par time, split times, etc., what other circumstances might influence their choices - like their choice of gun.

That being said, 99% of the time it is because the person is just untrained, but there are some weird exceptions ranging from Ben's floating thumbs grip to people like Lena's weird thing where she makes contact with the front of the trigger guard/hooks some fingers around it. As long as it's repeatable and predictable on demand/you're not creating unintended input you didn't/can't account for, results matter a lot more than if something looks funky - most of the time.

 

[nakatomi]

Made me think of this shot haha.



But anyways agreed with @Hindsight, I care a lot less about whether a grip looks weird and a lot more about whether the shooter can produce consistent results.

Look up pro Tetris players "rolling" their controller. It's F-in bizarre but the results speak for themselves and now nearly every top player does it.

Now I know he didn't come up with it but Shrek McPhee popularized thumbs forward pistol grip and taught it to a wider audience including myself but the reason it became popular was the results were hard to ignore.

Someone will come up with some bizarre approach that works. Maybe teacup variation will make a comeback ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ haha

 

[Darqhelmet]

I tend to focus more on the results/outcomes (at least for social media type posts) - what does their target look like after the shots, what was the drill/course of fire, time on the shot timer - par time, split times, etc., what other circumstances might influence their choices - like their choice of gun.

That being said, 99% of the time it is because the person is just untrained, but there are some weird exceptions ranging from Ben's floating thumbs grip to people like Lena's weird thing where she makes contact with the front of the trigger guard/hooks some fingers around it. As long as it's repeatable and predictable on demand/you're not creating unintended input you didn't/can't account for, results matter a lot more than if something looks funky - most of the time.

hooking the front of the trigger guard was something that was trained for a decent amount of time and works for some people. That’s why Beretta went from a round trigger guard to a square one and put stippling on the front. Glock, HK, etc also texture the front of the trigger guard for the same reason. Just because it’s not en vogue today doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.

 

[Darqhelmet]

Made me think of this shot haha.

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But anyways agreed with @Hindsight, I care a lot less about whether a grip looks weird and a lot more about whether the shooter can produce consistent results.

Look up pro Tetris players "rolling" their controller. It's F-in bizarre but the results speak for themselves and now nearly every top player does it.

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Now I know he didn't come up with it but Shrek McPhee popularized thumbs forward pistol grip and taught it to a wider audience including myself but the reason it became popular was the results were hard to ignore.

Someone will come up with some bizarre approach that works. Maybe teacup variation will make a comeback ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ haha

Revolver shooter probably trained the actors. Good old teacup grip

 

[M_N04H]

Revolver shooter probably trained the actors. Good old teacup grip

I don't know if true, but I've heard somewhere they're taught to grip like this so their face shows more for the camera.

 

[FriedChickies]

Someone posted a video of a cop (officer Jiminez) shooting a dude on the ground while her partner wrestled with him (was charged with murder as she pretty much executed him and fired a second shot into him for NO reason) and her grip on the pistol made it seem like she’d never held a gun before. Support hand HOLDING the slide, hovering around the back of the slide, etc… honestly looked like she didn’t know how a semi auto pistol even operates. Scary

Most cops cannot shoot. Most have minimal firearms training and live fire range time.

One of my fellow USPSA club members is CHP, and also a multi-division Master level shooter . He’s the exception, not the rule

 

[FriedChickies]

hooking the front of the trigger guard was something that was trained for a decent amount of time and works for some people. That’s why Beretta went from a round trigger guard to a square one and put stippling on the front. Glock, HK, etc also texture the front of the trigger guard for the same reason. Just because it’s not en vogue today doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.

Grauffel shoots like this. Doesn’t seem to slow down his IPSC success