What’s your hunting long gun weight or ideal weight? Are you comfortable with it? What weight do you prefer based on the terrain?

[Deleted member 16735]

So, I’m seeing tikka’s are light weight but based on videos people are complaining about the stock? I noticed people complaining about the factory stock for the Ruger American gen 1 and also the newer 2? I see nicer replacement aluminum chassis but then it would take away from the lightweight?

The Tikka stock is just plastic, it's mediocre but it's not like it will actually do anything to hurt the performance of your rifle besides that it's not luxurious. It's hard to complain when you can find a tikka on sale for like 700 bucks and it has basically one of the best barreled actions for hunting you can get with a mediocre stock. If you want to upgrade there are carbon Stockys that you can find on sale for ~400 or there are superlight chassis for like 1500 lol. It's a hunting rifle though you can just go take it hunting and use a mediocre stock. The ruger stuff is actually trash though lol

 

[Deadcoyote]

My stainless tikka never rusts and it’s gotten soaked in the rain a lot. Conversely, while I love my stainless CVA scout II it must be like fake stainless or something because that things rusts like a mofo and I clean my gear and take care of it.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

The Tikka stock is just plastic, it's mediocre but it's not like it will actually do anything to hurt the performance of your rifle besides that it's not luxurious. It's hard to complain when you can find a tikka on sale for like 700 bucks and it has basically one of the best barreled actions for hunting you can get with a mediocre stock. If you want to upgrade there are carbon Stockys that you can find on sale for ~400 or there are superlight chassis for like 1500 lol. It's a hunting rifle though you can just go take it hunting and use a mediocre stock. The ruger stuff is actually trash though lol

So how does the stock compare to the ruger? Does the factory tikka stock have that bendy situation where barrel flexes into the stock like the ruger factory stock?

Why ruger stuff is actually trash? Even the second generation? You don’t think they did any better?

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

My stainless tikka never rusts and it’s gotten soaked in the rain a lot. Conversely, while I love my stainless CVA scout II it must be like fake stainless or something because that things rusts like a mofo and I clean my gear and take care of it.

Hey, speaking of lightweight hunting set ups, what do you think of the cva scout single shot pistol, savage 110 pcs bolt action pistol, or aero solus bolt action pistol? Do you think we would have any issues if coming into contact with game warden in rural county public land, for a hunting license/tag check, with a folding arm bar/pistol brace on there; while hunting on public land? Do you think it would look better than hunting with semi auto ar-10 pistol with pistol brace?

In the end I think I would still continue to go with the simple bolt action rifle since those pistols even in big bore caliber would be an under 100 yards gun; but just wondering what you guys think?

 

[H. Bowman]

For about 95% of people, it's easier and healthier to lose ten pounds off your gut than 5 off your rifle.

 

[Trapper]

I’ve hunted with pistols and revolvers but it was eastern hunting, NC and SC, from a treestand with shots limited to 30-40 yards on private land.
Unless you’re routinely seeing game under 50 yards in the areas you hunt, I’d take a rifle.

 

[Deadcoyote]

So I love the CVA scout, they’re amazing guns. From what I can tell the pistols are only made with threaded barrels so despite single shot exemption there’s no assault weapon loophole there to acquire a pistol version. 2$8,$ is kind of hilarious right? A single shot break action handgun can’t be acquired because it’s an assault weapon by statute in California.

CVA scouts have simple manual of arms, factory triggers that are so good they’re almost too good, and they’re cheap. My only beef is my stainless one rusts like crazy. Ironically, my blued one hasn’t rusted at all, has seen more rain than the other one and is stored in the same safe with a golden rod.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

So I love the CVA scout, they’re amazing guns. From what I can tell the pistols are only made with threaded barrels so despite single shot exemption there’s no assault weapon loophole there to acquire a pistol version. 2$8,$ is kind of hilarious right? A single shot break action handgun can’t be acquired because it’s an assault weapon by statute in California.

CVA scouts have simple manual of arms, factory triggers that are so good they’re almost too good, and they’re cheap. My only beef is my stainless one rusts like crazy. Ironically, my blued one hasn’t rusted at all, has seen more rain than the other one and is stored in the same safe with a golden rod.

It’s not semi auto, so bolt action or single shot is fine with threaded barrel. It only states that the threaded barrel pistol no no is for semi auto with detachable mags. It doesn’t cover bolt action pistols with detachable mags or single shot pistols. If threaded barrel was a no no for non semi-automatic pistols; the on roster Franklin armory ca7 bolt action pistol wouldn’t have an easily removable muzzle device, it would be pinned/welded.

Assault Weapon Characteristics

Effective January 1, 2000, Senate Bill 23, Statutes of 1999, established new criteria for defining assault weapons based on generic characteristics. This bill allowed and required persons who owned/possessed firearms that fall under the new "assault weapon" definition to register those firearms...

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A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
A second handgrip.
A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer's hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

I’ve hunted with pistols and revolvers but it was eastern hunting, NC and SC, from a treestand with shots limited to 30-40 yards on private land.
Unless you’re routinely seeing game under 50 yards in the areas you hunt, I’d take a rifle.

I’ve only harvested twice so far; both on A zone public general rifle. Both were under 48 yards. I still have a lot to learn about blacktail. I think I just got lucky.

I don’t know how it would be in the future, but I think you’re right, I would be safer with a rifle. The farthest shot there I’ve heard of there is 484 yards.

 

[Deleted member 16735]

So how does the stock compare to the ruger? Does the factory tikka stock have that bendy situation where barrel flexes into the stock like the ruger factory stock?

Why ruger stuff is actually trash? Even the second generation? You don’t think they did any better?

I haven't had the current gen Tikka stock I had one back with they were just called the T3, but it was fine it's just a cheap stock but it was stiff it didn't flex if you were shooting off of the forend like the Rugers do. The Rugers are famous for feeding issues and the bolt making a horrible scraping noise lol. They are just rough as hell compared to everything else. Go by a shop some time and just run a tikka bolt and you immediately feel the difference. It will just glide open. The Rugers are decently accurate and they will shoot a bullet but just barely lol. They aren't cheap enough to feel that janky, it would be excusable at 400 dollars but they are usually over 600 just like a tikka. I mean if you already have one and it work then there's no reason not to shoot it but if you have a choice...

 

[Gawernator]

Wow RIP Bambi

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

I haven't had the current gen Tikka stock I had one back with they were just called the T3, but it was fine it's just a cheap stock but it was stiff it didn't flex if you were shooting off of the forend like the Rugers do. The Rugers are famous for feeding issues and the bolt making a horrible scraping noise lol. They are just rough as hell compared to everything else. Go by a shop some time and just run a tikka bolt and you immediately feel the difference. It will just glide open. The Rugers are decently accurate and they will shoot a bullet but just barely lol. They aren't cheap enough to feel that janky, it would be excusable at 400 dollars but they are usually over 600 just like a tikka. I mean if you already have one and it work then there's no reason not to shoot it but if you have a choice...

I worked a brand new tikka action once; it definitely didn’t have the sound of a brand new Ruger American gen 1 bolt. However, I did get rid of the brand new Ruger American bolt whirring noise by greasing up the bolt, working the action while watching a movie, and then taking it out to shoot it. It’s buttery smooth now where the whirring sound is non existent.

I haven't had any feeding issues on mine; didn’t even know Ruger Americans had this issue.

 

[Phil_Smash]

When I first saw this thread, my immediate thought was Upland gamebird hunting, which I do a lot of. I love my Stevens 555 20 gauge over under. It comes in at right around 5-and-half pounds. My other favorite 20 is a lightweight 870 in 20 gauge- comes in at just over 6 pounds. In 12 gauge, I jumped back-and-forth between my duck gun, which is a Franchi Instinct (auto-loader around 7 pounds), and an old lightweight Mossberg 500 (roughly on the heavier end of 6 pounds).

For hunting, lighter is almost always better. Duck hunting from a blind is the exception. I like the Franchi for ducks, but I have moved back towards pump guns recently, and prefer my Benelli supernova, as well as an older heavier 870 in 12 gauge.

This is going to be my dove/ quail gun this year. Benelli silver Featherweight 20ga, 24in barrel 5lb 3oz. I’m coming from a 20ga 26in montefeltro so it’s cutting about 1lb.

For pheasants I have a Benelli ultralight 12ga 24in barrel which is about 6lb.

For duck I have a Benelli sbe3 26” 6lb 14oz.

I have an 870 12ga in the back of my safe, which hasn’t been shot in 15 years maybe I’ll bring out this season.