What are Ak pistol really worth?

[Plenty_Pack_556]

Which FFL did yall use in OC to sell sse to semi. Send via pm if needed. Thanks.

 

[909gunner]

yeah why would people do that and charge a California market rate for these firearms. Weird huh. If you bought a house at 350,000 and the Zillow estimate on the house is 600,000 would you list it at 400,000 and lock in that fair profit?

The housing market and itself is a scam How is something getting older and rotten going up in price lol when most cars don’t the depreciate with time so should a house
Oh wait TAXES LOL as time goes buy they are just taxing you more. That a whole different discussion if you want to go that way. Just use your head

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

Who ever is changing that paper work is running that risk as well as the last firearm owner during sale for converting a sse configuration into semi meaning manufacturing charges multiple was like unsafe gun and assault weapons manufacturing
The doj has stated clear about doing that

When I sold a semi auto registered the ffl ask for the paper work stating it was drosed semi and they can tell it wasent a “build” because it was from a known manufacture ie centry and pioneer.

It wouldn’t be an AW as long as it has a fixed mag system such as a comp mag or maglatch like the one you have on your century or pioneer…..

 

[909gunner]

It’s not illegal for them to be semi. It’s legal to convert them to semi after DROS. Also cuz they look cool I bought a Draco and a zenith ZF5K paid 2,000 each and did I overpay? Yes but if I have the money to spare why not if I can’t move out of state for some years.

2k for a semi Draco is reasonable not these 3-4k lol but running a sse in semi without the correct paper work can run the risk of confiscation due to a confused law official or even a head range officer.

 

[909gunner]

It wouldn’t be an AW as long as it has a fixed mag system such as a comp mag or maglatch like the one you have on your century or pioneer…..

Would still be concerting a sse into semi and who would buy a sse Draco and run a comp after going semi lol sounds redundant

 

[909gunner]

Yes you can. I just bought a Draco that was semi originally SSE through an ffl private party transfer.

Bro that was me and that gun has always been semi not a single shot unless you bought another lol

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

2k for a semi Draco is reasonable not these 3-4k lol but running a sse in semi without the correct paper work can run the risk of confiscation due to a confused law official or even a head range officer.

There were many semi auto century arms romanian imported full size Draco’s being sold for $2k on calguns that were from the old sse boat that closed down. During the ppt, the shop would dros as current configuration which was semi auto.

$2k was about the average actual selling price for a century arms Romanian imported full size Draco. Some people would try to list for more ($3k-$4k like it’s an arsenal Sam7k) but then would eventually come back down; but that’s bone stock Oem without any upgrades.

 

[KingRansom]

yeah why would people do that and charge a California market rate for these firearms. Weird huh. If you bought a house at 350,000 and the Zillow estimate on the house is 600,000 would you list it at 400,000 and lock in that fair profit?

Silly analogy. When you're talking about housing you don't have much of a choice but to pay what the market is because every house that goes up is roughly the same. But when it comes to firearms you do have a choice whether you want to get raked over the coals for an off roster gun when you can very easily buy in on roster gun at a fraction of the cost. The housing market doesn't leave you that option, the gun market does

 

[909gunner]

There were many semi auto century arms romanian imported full size Draco’s being sold for $2k on calguns that were from the old sse boat that closed down. During the ppt, the shop would dros as current configuration which was semi auto.

$2k was about the average price for a century arms Romanian imported full size Draco. Some people would try to list for more ($3k-$4k like it’s an arsenal Sam7k) but then would eventually come back down; but that’s bone stock Oem without any upgrades.

Yes 2k seams reasonable Cali market for a semi Draco not 3-4k especially a crappy one I seen a zpap lil bit ago for 27 that’s lil over fair but still reasonable

 

[909gunner]

Silly analogy. When you're talking about housing you don't have much of a choice but to pay what the market is because every house that goes up is roughly the same. But when it comes to firearms you do have a choice whether you want to get raked over the coals for an off roster gun when you can very easily buy in on roster gun at a fraction of the cost. The housing market doesn't leave you that option, the gun market does

Some people are special

 

[e6n5j8o8i]

I mean stripped anderson lowers DROSed as a semi auto pistol go for around $600-800 alone around here. Build it up with decent/budget parts, maglock parts, you're looking easily at $1500-1800 for the build alone, and that's probably running irons or a budget red dot for sure. So $2k fully built doesn't seem all that unreasonable. Add to that any supply/demand factors. But just the saved hassle of sourcing parts these days may be worth the small premium. $3-4k though and that's price gouging a bit. The lowers are available often enough to make the base build within reach for most people who really want one.

 

[909gunner]

I mean stripped anderson lowers DROSed as a semi auto pistol go for around $600-800 alone around here. Build it up with decent/budget parts, maglock parts, you're looking easily at $1500-1800 for the build alone, and that's probably running irons or a budget red dot for sure. So $2k fully built doesn't seem all that unreasonable. Add to that any supply/demand factors. But just the saved hassle of sourcing parts these days may be worth the small premium. $3-4k though and that's price gouging a bit. The lowers are available often enough to make the base build within reach for most people who really want one.

Exactly

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

I mean stripped anderson lowers DROSed as a semi auto pistol go for around $600-800 alone around here. Build it up with decent/budget parts, maglock parts, you're looking easily at $1500-1800 for the build alone, and that's probably running irons or a budget red dot for sure. So $2k fully built doesn't seem all that unreasonable. Add to that any supply/demand factors. But just the saved hassle of sourcing parts these days may be worth the small premium. $3-4k though and that's price gouging a bit. The lowers are available often enough to make the base build within reach for most people who really want one.

Average general actual selling price range on calguns was usually $500-$600 for Anderson and palmetto since they are lower in the tier. $700-$800 is kind of high for an Anderson. You might as well have just waited for an aero.

Aero x15 gen 2 and spikes tactical was $600 on average.
Aero m4e1 or m5 was ranging between $700-$800; max was $850. Once in awhile you had one guy do quick sales of small batches for $550 for m4e1 but they would sell within a day or two that he listed it.

I don’t know what’s up with some folks listing m4e1 or m5 for $1050 on here; there were occasional people like that on calguns but it would needed to be bumped for a long time. They would have been better off just buying multiple on the same dros and selling at an average range price; it’s not like they couldn’t buy another one anyways. If they couldn’t because that’s all they have from moving in from out of state without being able to do any future intrafamilial, they might as well have just kept it.

 

[gorgothmog]

All you guys just STFU and enjoy your SSE. Let the lawyers and the FFLs worry about it. You think this is some sneaky way to skirt rules or something? SSE is mentioned in official Cal DoJ guidance. The legislature banned SSE and then SSE 2.0 was born. If SSE didn't exist there would be more roster lawsuits. Soooo STFU, enjoy your guns, and stop worrying about everything. If they close off SSE they may give the opportunity to grandfather everyone in and ban anything new. I don't know, but you're all being a bunch of Nancies by whining about it. They would have banned it by now if it it was a thing they were concerned about.

 

[tancoyote]

The AK is a long way off from the cheap rifle it once was. There are also a ton of REALLY bad ones floating around the US market.

The Romanian WASR is the defacto cheap but good option, but there are plenty of others available as well.

As to actual spend, be prepared to go 800 - 1k for a reliable setup, depends where you live. DO NOT buy a 5.45 AK, the ammo is drying up fast. Stick with 7.62x39 or 5.56x45.

 

[five.five-six]

People who pay high dollar for these off roster firearms are doing a disservice to all of us by resetting the market price. It's very simple, if nobody buys them and the seller really wants to dump the firearm, they'll ask a reasonable price for it otherwise they'll sit on it forever. Just say no

It’s called supply and demand. Jimmy carter tried price fixing back in the stone ages. See how well that worked. The price will always create an equilibrium between supply and demand. Even if there are unconstitutional restrictions enacted by the national s workers party currently in control of the state of california. Part of the reason the entire country pays as much premium on Clinton pre-ban AR’s is because in New Jersey, the only way to have a detachable magazine is in AR’s that fall into that category. New Jersey residents gobble them all up.

 

[five.five-six]

All you guys just STFU and enjoy your SSE. Let the lawyers and the FFLs worry about it. You think this is some sneaky way to skirt rules or something? COMPLY WITH THE LAW SSE is mentioned in official Cal DoJ guidance. The legislature banned SSE and then SSE 2.0 was born. If SSE didn't exist there would be more roster lawsuits. Soooo STFU, enjoy your guns, and stop worrying about everything. If they close off SSE they may give the opportunity to grandfather everyone in and ban anything new. I don't know, but you're all being a bunch of Nancies by whining about it. They would have banned it by now if it it was a thing they were concerned about.

FTFY

 

[909gunner]

All you guys just STFU and enjoy your SSE. Let the lawyers and the FFLs worry about it. You think this is some sneaky way to skirt rules or something? SSE is mentioned in official Cal DoJ guidance. The legislature banned SSE and then SSE 2.0 was born. If SSE didn't exist there would be more roster lawsuits. Soooo STFU, enjoy your guns, and stop worrying about everything. If they close off SSE they may give the opportunity to grandfather everyone in and ban anything new. I don't know, but you're all being a bunch of Nancies by whining about it. They would have banned it by now if it it was a thing they were concerned about.

They can’t outright ban a gun in its entirety, but they have restricted it and its configuration so they can’t be sued for banning a firearm. You can still get them just not the way you want to. And if you change it the way it’s supposed to be they have called that an unsafe firearm. Seems dumb, but I don’t make little rules to throw people in jail they do.