When buying a gun from a member how do I check if the gun works before paying for it?

[GoldensRule]

This just isn’t really feasible. Time is precious. Meet up at range…pay range fee…. Hopefully lane is open….you just gonna check to see if the gun operates fine? Ok so then go to ffl if range is not an ffl, wait to get checked in and wait your turn. Finally do paperwork….yeah if I’m selling I’m not doing that. I just don’t have the time.

Perfectly feasible, if the seller wants the $$, you do what must be done to make the sale. That's the difference between a good vendor and a .

 

[Tere_Hanges]

Arrogance in a seller is not a virtue.

Neither is arrogance in a buyer. It's not about being arrogant; it's about judging if the buyer is going to have issues and making the transaction as smooth as possible. If a seller prices right they may be in a position to choose from multiple buyers and determine who will be the most reliable and make the deal as easy as possible. Its about dealing with someone reliable that won't waste your time.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

Perfectly feasible, if the seller wants the $$, you do what must be done to make the sale. That's the difference between a good vendor and a .

Maybe in your world, but in the real world I guarantee you 99.99999% of sellers will just sell to the next person that knows what they doing and is committed to making a deal. BTW, Ive sold to plenty of noobs and none of them ever asked to shoot before buying. Its a rediculous oddball request.

 

[tedster]

I’ve never done this but maybe you can meet at a range, test fire, then proceed with transfer?

Do I know that person? Not a chance that would meet with a stranger at any range, indoor/outdoor and have him take charge of my loaded gun.

 

[GoldensRule]

Neither is arrogance in a buyer. It's not about being arrogant; it's about judging if the buyer is going to have issues and making the transaction as smooth as possible. If a seller prices right they may be in a position to choose from multiple buyers and determine who will be the most reliable and make the deal as easy as possible. Its not a friggin merger or acquistion, you shouldnt have wine and dine some noob asking a million questions and wasting your time. Its about dealing with someone reliable.

Would you buy a used car without test driving it? There is no diference.

 

[tedster]

Arrogance in a seller is not a virtue. Everyone was a newbie at one point. Most sellers are primarily concerned with getting the best price and getting money, the definition of "selling". If a seller isn't willing to work with me, I immediately move on to someone else. Odds are the item being sold isn't a one of a kind or even rare. Screw sellers with an attitude.

I rather be arrogant than having to deal with tire kickers.

Would you buy a used car without test driving it? There is no diference.

You’ve got to be kidding, right?

 

[ShootFirstFirster]

Would you buy a used car without test driving it? There is no diference.

3 Feedback. Checks out.

 

[tedster]

Go in to the ffl, hand them the case and let them open it.
Tell them the buyer has not seen it yet and he needs to examine it.
The buyer then examines it in the shop.

Exactly like this.
Place your case on the counter and let the personnel handle the gun from there.
They first make sure the gun is unloaded, then give the potential buyer a chance to look it over. They will attend the process, for everybody’s safety.

 

[ascarydrawing]

Exactly like this.
Place your case on the counter and let the personnel handle the gun from there.
They first make sure the gun is unloaded, then give the potential buyer a chance to look it over. They will attend the process, for everybody’s safety.

Awesome advice thank you so much!

 

[tedster]

Never start fumbling your guns in a parking lot. You might be in for a world of trouble. Inside the FFL store is a gun owners safe zone. It’s the designated place for buying and selling guns.

 

[tedster]

3 Feedback. Checks out.

lol

 

[tedster]

Neither is arrogance in a buyer. It's not about being arrogant; it's about judging if the buyer is going to have issues and making the transaction as smooth as possible. If a seller prices right they may be in a position to choose from multiple buyers and determine who will be the most reliable and make the deal as easy as possible. Its not a friggin corporate merger or acquistion, you shouldnt have wine and dine some noob asking a million questions and wasting your time. Its about dealing with someone reliable.

I miss the times when the thread was bumped with the words “I’ll take it”.

 

[ascarydrawing]

Never start fumbling your guns in a parking lot. You might be in for a world of trouble. Inside the FFL store is a gun owners safe zone. It’s the designated place for buying and selling guns.

This what I’m gonna follow! Thanks for the sound advice.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

Never start fumbling your guns in a parking lot. You might be in for a world of trouble. Inside the FFL store is a gun owners safe zone. It’s the designated place for buying and selling guns.

Yeah, seriously. Im not showing some random dude my gun in the gunstore parking lot when we can just go inside. Thats just stupid.

 

[H. Bowman]

So most cases you meet in the parking lot before and you look it over and check the action. It’s not like you can shoot it or anything. You should ask the questions your wondering prior to the meet up and then verify in person.

I've met with people to shoot befire transaction a bunch of times. Probably not uncommon but it can definitely be done. I wouldn't bother with low to middle end stuff though.

 

[davethebull]

10 steps and turn /s

 

[BigBlaze]

Both is the correct answer!!!
If you are the buyer its nice to pay after the Paperwork is submitted so you know there is no issue.
If you are the seller you want money before you submit since there will be no argument over funds.

I just had a guy who paid after the DROS was ran and the seller came back in to complain that the buyer shorted him. He wanted us to get involved but that's a civil issue between them and if the buyer passes the check I'm delivering the gun.

Also had buyers complain after all is done that the seller was suppose to give him extra mags/parts/ect.

Do your best to protect yourself.

This is exactly why as a seller I wanna get paid before starting the paperwork. Once the paperwork is completed and the buyer doesn't pay or decides to renegotiate and pay a lower price there is nothing the seller can do. And it becomes a civil law suite

 

[tedster]

Yeah, seriously. Im not showing some random dude my gun in the parking lot. Thats just stupid.

The only exception would be at my gun club’s range parking lot. Shooters typically park just a few steps away from the firing line. Those are people who are familiar with each other or befriended.

 

[BigBlaze]

generally I dont pay until the ppt is done and signed for. either transfer funds electronically at that point or pay outside shop (depending on shop, some dont want funds transferred in shop). while doing the PPT I inspect the gun in the shop. check the action, do a basic field strip. like nothing "extensive" but like in an AR pop it open and inspect the BCG etc.

if it's an old gun I might bring some go/no go gauges and check the head space

but basically what bob above me posted

I would never want to sell to a buyer who pays after the paperwork is done. This gives all the leverage to the buyer

 

[tedster]

This is exactly why as a seller I wanna get paid before starting the paperwork. Once the paperwork is completed and the buyer doesn't pay or decides to renegotiate and pay a lower price there is nothing the seller can do. And it becomes a civil law suite

You can cancel the DROS and call off the sale. Drive home with your gun.
Be happy or pissed. Life goes on.