"Aiming is useless"

[Deleted member 6005]

I've already made my case here. No need to drag politics into it.

Context! That wasn't political.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

Context! That wasn't political.

Are you one of those that believe Trump suggested drinking bleach?

Look what you wrote. It's bait, and it's political. Re-read my prior comments because I've already explained my position.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

Lapd CCW is max 7yds and i pretty much just did point shooting the entire time. But I’ve shot a few thousand rounds with my pistol and am confident with it.

Muscle memory matters, which is one of the benefits of training.

 

[jarhead714]

Look what you wrote. It's bait, and it's political. Re-read my prior comments because I've already explained my position.

Of course it’s baited, but have fun with it. Learn to engage with a wit and wisdom befitting the quip.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

Of course it’s baited, but have fun with it. Learn to engage with a wit and wisdom befitting the quip.

The conversation hadn't risen to the level of banter.

 

[jarhead714]

The conversation hadn't risen to the level of banter.

That’s all any of this really is when you get right down to it. Just a bunch of guys pulling their puds, talking about guns.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

That’s all any of this really is when you get right down to it. Just a bunch of guys pulling their puds, talking about guns.

I get it and most of the time I'm one of 'em.

 

[cali_jazz]

I've already made my case here. No need to drag politics into it.

OK fellas, let's not let another post devolve or get political.

 

[Mil-Dot]

Some of what he says is correct but one thing he says about hitting close up targets and you can’t miss is very wrong. I have seen, with my own eyes, people who couldn’t place a single shot on silhouette targets at 7 yards. Not even on the paper. And they are actually trying to aim.

Lolenthe people who hit the F-ing ceiling? Im always amazed by this.

 

[Dvrjon]

Every story or video or YouTube uses a headline to draw you in.

If you set aside the headline and watch and listen to the video from 00:24 to 00:32, he says,

You need to be able to fire the gun without altering the attitude and direction the gun is pointing. Until you can do that aiming is useless.

He’s making the point that spending too much effort on aiming and not on the mechanics of shooting will result in crappy shots.

 

[jarhead714]

Every story or video or YouTube uses a headline to draw you in.

If you set aside the headline and watch and listen to the video from 00:24 to 00:32, he says,

He’s making the point that spending too much effort on aiming and not on the mechanics of shooting will result in crappy shots.

Years ago, it took me about 30 rounds of .357 in a Blackhawk to get on paper at 10 YARDS.

 

[PoorRichRichard]

Tag

 

[sonofeugene]

Years ago, it took me about 30 rounds of .357 in a Blackhawk to get on paper at 10 YARDS.

I once shot my brother’s 357. Couldn’t hit with it. Turned out he doesn’t maintain his guns and the sights were loose and flopping around.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

Every story or video or YouTube uses a headline to draw you in.

If you set aside the headline and watch and listen to the video from 00:24 to 00:32, he says,

He’s making the point that spending too much effort on aiming and not on the mechanics of shooting will result in crappy shots.

The phrase "Aiming is useless" is literally wrong, and doesn't relate to your explanation.

What's funny is how people keep trying to explain a literally incorrect phrase to me like I don't have a mastery of English.

The person saying "Aiming is useless" should express that aiming can be deprioritized or offer nuanced context without the declarative and incorrect hyperbole.

This is really an error of logic, or a false dichotomy. Both aiming and shooting mechanics are important. It's okay to focus on one or the other without erroneously claiming either is "useless".

Insomuch as responsible gun-handlers always know which way their guns are pointing, aiming is paramount and the opposite of useless.

 

[BunnySloper]

I seriously think that some “random guy on the internet” blood was already boiling, after reading the title of the video. Their only purpose to watching the video is/was to crap on it in the comment section.

He literally said aiming doesn’t until you get your fire control skills dialed in. I completely agree. He didn’t even say you can’t miss at short distance , he said people miss because “…they move the gun everything the squeeze the trigger.”

Sure, the title is misleading and controversial, but that’s how he gets people’s attention to his video.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

I seriously think that some “random guy on the internet” blood was already boiling, after reading the title of the video. Their only purpose to watching the video is/was to crap on it in the comment section.

He literally said aiming doesn’t until you get your fire control skills dialed in. I completely agree. He didn’t even say you can’t miss at short distance , he said people miss because “…they move the gun everything the squeeze the trigger.”

Sure, the title is misleading and controversial, but that’s how he gets people’s attention to his video.

Right, so aiming is secondary to shooting mechanics, but not useless. That's a reasonable claim.

 

[Dvrjon]

That’s all any of this really is when you get right down to it. Just a bunch of guys pulling their puds, talking about guns.

Right, so aiming is secondary to shooting mechanics, but not useless. That's a reasonable claim.

And if you don’t have solid mechanics, you will pull the gun off of your sight picture, so the effort you made to aim is in fact useless.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

And if you don’t have solid mechanics, you will pull the gun off of your sight picture, so the effort you made to aim is in fact useless.

"Useless" is the wrong word. Maybe secondary to fundamentals, sure, but it's never useless. The whole point of a proper grip and other fundamentals is to keep your aim true and not to disturb your aim.

Sometimes we have to know when to stop polishing the turd.

 

[Plenty_Pack_556]

Red Dots on Pistols are Useless if the fundamentals of Aiming is Useless are applied.

 

[Dvrjon]

"Useless" is the wrong word. Maybe secondary to fundamentals, sure, but it's never useless. The whole point of a proper grip and other fundamentals is to keep your aim true and not to disturb your aim.

Sometimes we have to know when to stop polishing the turd.

OK, so stop.