Beretta m9 vs sig m18/17

[DesertDepotArms]

Interesting that whole debacle is. I am aware of two prominent gunsmiths who have been said to replicate the discharges on demand, however politics and career survival keeps them from going mainstream.
A family member carries a M18 as issued while on duty, but will NOT carry such on their own time.

I am sorry if they have repetable proof of a problem they 100% need to bring it mainstream. If they are worried about politics and career, being the one who found and were able to prove a problem actually existed would give them more credibility and trust in the industry.

 

[Striker777]

G19

 

[C1PHR3]

100% Beretta

 

[Yourmomlovesmypew]

Beretta hands down!

M9A1 with a Brigadier slide is where it’s at.

M9A1 with A4 slide...

 

[Malibu]

I am sorry if they have repetable proof of a problem they 100% need to bring it mainstream. If they are worried about politics and career, being the one who found and were able to prove a problem actually existed would give them more credibility and trust in the industry.

At first glance most would agree, however when you get deep into the weeds within the firearms and ammunition industries, you will find a deep canyon of venomous snakes, back stabbers, thieves, double-tongue PR folks, and all sorts of lying, dishonest, disingenuous types who are only out to get ahead. Some things aren’t worth getting involved in, and to these two distinguished industry folks (gunsmiths) it is better to let SIG clean up their own mess. I don’t blame them one bit.

 

[DesertDepotArms]

At first glance most would agree, however when you get deep into the weeds within the firearms and ammunition industries, you will find a deep canyon of venomous snakes, back stabbers, thieves, double-tongue PR folks, and all sorts of lying, dishonest, disingenuous types who are only out to get ahead. Some things aren’t worth getting involved in, and to these two distinguished industry folks (gunsmiths) it is better to let SIG clean up their own mess. I don’t blame them one bit.

So I take that as a no. No one has proof...

Here is something that was just released from the USMC investigation....

USMC Affirms Confidence in Modular Handgun System | Soldier Systems Daily

Back in April a reader posted a link to this 2023 USMC incident report regarding a negligent discharge of an M18 Modular Handgun System pistol by a foreign ...

soldiersystems.net

 

[Malibu]

So I take that as a no. No one has proof...

Here is something that was just released from the USMC investigation....

USMC Affirms Confidence in Modular Handgun System | Soldier Systems Daily

Back in April a reader posted a link to this 2023 USMC incident report regarding a negligent discharge of an M18 Modular Handgun System pistol by a foreign ...

soldiersystems.net

They do indeed, and choose not to be involved for a number of reasons. No, I’m not going say who they are. If in time either of them make the decision to add to the discussion, they will do so.

 

[DesertDepotArms]

They do indeed, and choose not to be involved for a number of reasons. No, I’m not going say who they are. If in time either of them make the decision to add to the discussion, they will do so.

So we can just say its hearsay then....

 

[Bongos]

hands down the 92F, only because I have to ton of surplus mags.... that said, I have an M18 but with only 10 rd mags LOL...

 

[21SF 2.0]

Until I see someone standing there with their arms crossed and the gun goes off, I don’t want to hear it…. A wise man never said.
92f

 

[cjjohn]

I love the shake awake option on my optics......not so much on a handgun. So of the two choices, Beretta. SHTF, it would be neither.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Honestly, I would choose a Beretta M9 over a lot of handguns.

 

[hambam1055]

It is still a 9mm. What's all the sqabbling about? Both choices are still not 45acp.

 

[riceman]

If I had to crawl in the dirt, sand or mud none. Reliability is what I want so you can guess from here.

 

[M_N04H]

Beretta. Reliable as hell. Time tested.

 

[mykkus]

Beretta and it’s not close.
30 years with zero issues

 

[tomrkba]

Which would you guys carry for SHTF
zombie apocalypse’s, war world 3 , civil war etc
Which would you trust to be by your side ?
I personally pick the m1911a1 45acp baby !

The Beretta doesn't shoot by itself. While this can be useful when you need to fling the P320 into a room like a frisbee, this is not so useful if the round hits the owner.