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Best 2011 CA Legal

Aren’t they all (or almost all) available now via SSE? Atlas, Fusion Pro, Phoenix, Watchtower, Platypus, etc??

My vote is Atlas. I’ve got a Titan RDS in 40 S&W that’s just such a sweet shooter.
Those all are, but not every 2011 brand can or does play ball with FFL07s. It needs to come from the factory as virgin and not all of them will do that - like staccato won’t do that with their legacy series 70 stuff.
 
Funny to hear Wilson Combat and Staccato are low tier, wow
They’re more mid tier than low tier, but that bucket kind of got bunched together in my rush to throw out some of the common names. But yes, the world of 2011s is stupid expensive and the definition of diminishing returns. And in a world where the upper mid tier starts at like $6k and top tier stuff is closer to $10k and up, it’s all relative.

If I was going to recommend a 2011 to a first time user who didn’t know if they were going to compete and just wanted a fun range gun and plinker I’d probably say:

Kimber 2k11 when it hits the roster (supposed to be soon) or Race City Defense - various models, staccato’s soon to be released steel full size comped HD model that will also probably hit the roster soon after July 4th, or on the high end the Dark Forge Ported and comped reaper.
 
Don’t get me wrong, no one needs a 2011 to perform well, but they do provide an ease of accessing capability and magnify your strengths and cover up some of your weaknesses. They also make very very clear what’s a lack of fundamentals and shooter skill or what’s some other external factor (it’s almost always the shooter).

Despite being slightly more maintenance and finicky, they are absolutely a joy to shoot and so good you can hand a new shooter a high end 2011, instruct them for 1-2 minutes with dry fire and how to use a red dot, and have them hitting center mass at a target 10-15 yards away in under 5 minutes from the first time they’ve handled a gun to first shot. Kind of hard to go wrong with a massive full size all steel straight back sub 2 lb trigger where you don’t feel any recoil.
 
Yeah my 1911 shoots so well so I know the 2011 would be crazy. Heavier for CCW though and different operation
 
They’re more mid tier than low tier, but that bucket kind of got bunched together in my rush to throw out some of the common names. But yes, the world of 2011s is stupid expensive and the definition of diminishing returns. And in a world where the upper mid tier starts at like $6k and top tier stuff is closer to $10k and up, it’s all relative.

If I was going to recommend a 2011 to a first time user who didn’t know if they were going to compete and just wanted a fun range gun and plinker I’d probably say:

Kimber 2k11 when it hits the roster (supposed to be soon) or Race City Defense - various models, staccato’s soon to be released steel full size comped HD model that will also probably hit the roster soon after July 4th, or on the high end the Dark Forge Ported and comped reaper.
Very curious about the Kimer 2011, my dad has a 1911 from the 90's from them I think and it seems nice...
 
keep mags in mind............ 90-150 per mag gets up there quick.
$59.99 ... I have HK and Walther pistols so nothing new lol

 
Atlas, Dark Forge, RCD, and Infinity. Staccato is not worth the price they're selling to normal consumers. If you can find a new one at the 20% off LEO price then sure. Otherwise it's a waste spending your money on a lesser gun when the ones I listed are better in every way
 
Atlas, Dark Forge, RCD, and Infinity. Staccato is not worth the price they're selling to normal consumers. If you can find a new one at the 20% off LEO price then sure. Otherwise it's a waste spending your money on a lesser gun when the ones I listed are better in every way
What about Kimber?
 
I got a watchtower Apache, zero complaints shoots flat and the slide to frame fit is on point. That being said I want the Vulcan Eleven or a dark forge reaper next
 
Atlas, Dark Forge, RCD, and Infinity. Staccato is not worth the price they're selling to normal consumers. If you can find a new one at the 20% off LEO price then sure. Otherwise it's a waste spending your money on a lesser gun when the ones I listed are better in every way
I’d say for some particular use cases the staccato would be fine. Like the on roster HD stuff is solid for a more duty oriented 2011 so if you were carrying on the job or wanted a carry 2011 those fit the bill fine. You can also probably snag those without paying the excise and sales tax via PPT, but you lose the warranty. And we’re not eligible to buy CPOs, sadly.
 
At each price point what is the 'best' CA legal 2011? Best overall? That you can go to a store and buy new, or order. Not PPT lol
Where are you located? @River City Gun Exchange typically has a great selection. Atlas, Fusion, TTI, Phoenix Arms, Stealth Arms, Watchtower and more (SSE).
 
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