Getting Better at Handgun

[Seeed]

Ive been going to the range a fair bit lately for just handgun and was struggling the first couple trips, It's been probably 10 years since ive gone shooting and even then wasn't very good. I've only been clay shooting and rifle for awhile. When I first went to the new USI setup, new to me. the range guy asked me if i was new to shooting handgun and I said well it's been 10 years, so yes, Ive only been trap/skeep or shotgun for awhile.

At the end of my first session a couple weeks ago, the same range master came by, looked at my target, and said yeah, clearly you're a shotgun shooter. I laughed and looked for ways to improve. After getting some really good feedback here from another thread I really started to think about everything in my grip and trigger pull broken down to almost every aspect of it and it has helped a lot. It's not great yet by any means but it's much better than a couple weeks ago. atleast I'm sorta grouping. Still working out some bits but im pretty happy with it so far, even in today's run, I was able to tighten it up immensely by the 3rd session.

So thank you to all that provided some guidance to get better and what to look for, and support. That's why I support this site.

p365 x-macro HE507K Green dot - stigmatizm - This target
Bodyguard 2 stock sites - much harder for me

 

[chiroken007]

Great work! Dry fire until you really get comfortable with your pistol. Feel the trigger slow and steady to know how it behaves. The takeup, the wall, the break, and the reset.

Looks like you can also put more focus on your support hand to reduce drifting to the left.

 

[Seeed]

Great work! Dry fire until you really get comfortable with your pistol. Feel the trigger slow and steady to know how it behaves. The takeup, the wall, the break, and the reset.

I meant to ask about this dry fire before actually and forgot. Is the idea to click and rack each time? Is there an easier way or alternative for striker fire practice or is that it?

 

[Insert_user_name_here]

I meant to ask about this dry fire before actually and forgot. Is the idea to click and rack each time? Is there an easier way or alternative for striker fire practice or is that it?

You can spend hundreds of dollars on a co2 setup. They make a variety of things but I just rack the slide.

 

[chiroken007]

Or just get a DA/SA or DAO..

I’m a broken record at this point. I have a type and I’m proud of it.

 

[RustVendor]

I meant to ask about this dry fire before actually and forgot. Is the idea to click and rack each time? Is there an easier way or alternative for striker fire practice or is that it?

Dry fire can mean a lot of things, just depends on what you are looking to improve. To get a feel for your specific trigger you can rack it, but you can also do a lot with just pressing the trigger and pressing it hard. You can play with your grip and how you press the trigger to get to a point where the sights just barely move. This is much easier to see with a red dot but the main thing is don't be dainty, you want to put as much effort as you would in live fire so press hard. You can also dry fire target transitions and you don't even need your finger on the trigger at all

 

[HarleyLowRiderST]

Curious iron stock sights, or red dot.

 

[Gawernator]

My invoice will be in the mail

 

[Seeed]

Curious iron stock sights, or red dot.

p365 x-macro HE507K Green dot - stigmatizm
Bodyguard 2 stock sites - much harder for me

I am finally able to site down though with my primary? eye with both eyes open as of today. Could use some visual improvements on the all black irons though I think. Not sure.

 

[Gawernator]

What's the distance and rate of fire on the target

 

[Seeed]

What's the distance and rate of fire on the target

7 yards. Very slow. Maybe 3 seconds between.

 

[Skilly]

You can spend hundreds of dollars on a co2 setup. They make a variety of things but I just rack the slide.

CO2 systems are weird. They cycle the gun and give you the opposite of muzzle rise - they create a kick down. There's feedback out there to stay away from them for this reason.

 

[JackRydden224]

You seem pretty consistent I wonder if your zero is off.

If you truly lack skills the grouping should be way bigger.

 

[sshkeptic]

P365 is flippy. One thing that helped me was getting a bigger heavier gun. It was inherently more precise because there was less flip. I think it gave me a bit more confidence, I shot more and felt like I could focus more on grip and flinch control rather than worrying about the recoil.

Plus it's an excuse to buy another gun!

 

[Seeed]

You seem pretty consistent I wonder if your zero is off.

If you truly lack skills the grouping should be way bigger.

hmm I didn't think about this. I'm not sure how to zero an optic if I suck anyway so maybe it's a tad off? Not sure

P365 is flippy. One thing that helped me was getting a bigger heavier gun. It was inherently more precise because there was less flip. I think it gave me a bit more confidence, I shot more and felt like I could focus more on grip and flinch control rather than worrying about the recoil.

Plus it's an excuse to buy another gun!

I do have a CZ-P01 that I haven't shot in awhile. I might bring that out next time.

 

[john_marsten_1873]

What specifically did you try with your grip and trigger that helped the most?

 

[Seeed]

What specifically did you try with your grip and trigger that helped the most?

few things:

Flattening out the tip of my index finger, instead of using the whole finger to move, focusing on just moving the tip straight back, placing my finger with the first 1/3 of the pad at the bottom of the trigger. This results in a gap with the whole finger off the frame which actually felt like I had more explicit trigger control or a that I was just engaging with it more directly.

Support hand grip tighter all around and at the front, almost pushing to the right if that makes sense?

 

[chiroken007]

Sounds like you’ve got it down. Since you have an optic, that’s definitively a variable that may need to be adjusted! Do you have some cowitness to use the irons? You can do a “rough” zero check using irons. See where the dot lands if you line up the irons.