Heads Up, Revival of SB 948.

[exnds]

I’m upset that you watched Copper Jacket more than the bill.

 

[sotsgorges047]

If this passes, and you plan to stop participating in serialized gun purchases when your FSC expires unless you want to spend hundreds to thousands extra for CA CCW; the last day to get your FSC or to renew is End of June 2028.

"This is me at the moment... lol"

This bill ought to die. Is there anything we could still do?

 

[chiroken007]

Yeah ive read about the subject in my many years of being alive, Theres more options than just planned parenthood too but you seem to understand how the reduction in crime can appear. Socioeconomic status is a high driver of crime, but back to the original thought on the matter. Do you think government should be involved in medical decisions between doctors and patients?

Maybe that was your thought on the matter?

Because that wasn’t the dialogue of the conversation.

I lean on pro individual liberties. Therefore an individuals freedom to seek an abortion can hold. I don’t necessarily support full government financial sponsorship of abortions.

My moral standing is not for abortion as a form of contraception. My moral stance is personal responsibility. That has no bearing on my stance for individual liberties to access.

To argue government being involved in medical decisions.. is a moot point when you truly look at it. FDA approval or some form of approval is required. That’s government intervening on medical decisions.

Do we want the free market to decide the cost of prescription drugs or do we want the federal government to intervene on prescription drug pricing on behalf of the people. Where are you drawing the line in the sand on this conversation. When it is convenient?

 

[grandpapeepap]

Maybe that was your thought on the matter?

Because that wasn’t the dialogue of the conversation.

I lean on pro individual liberties. Therefore an individuals freedom to seek an abortion can hold. I don’t necessarily support full government financial sponsorship of abortions.

My moral standing is not for abortion as a form of contraception. My moral stance is personal responsibility. That has no bearing on my stance for individual liberties to access.

To argue government being involved in medical decisions.. is a moot point when you truly look at it. FDA approval or some form of approval is required. That’s government intervening on medical decisions.

Do we want the free market to decide the cost of prescription drugs or do we want the federal government to intervene on prescription drug pricing on behalf of the people. Where are you drawing the line in the sand on this conversation. When it is convenient?

Full sponsorship also wasnt part of the conversation either. I only brought up a doctor and patient doing their thing. Abortion isnt used as a form of contraception. FDA doesnt intervene on pricing and other government entities as much as you think, see some hormone medicine patents being bought up and raised in price from 2k a vial to 29k a vial with no say from the government.

 

[grandpapeepap]

back to the thread topic, this bill sucks

 

[Gawernator]

This bill would require an applicant for a firearm safety certificate, on or after July 1, 2028, to complete within the prior year a training course no less than 8 4 hours in length that, among other things, includes instruction on firearm safety and handling and live-fire shooting exercises on a firing range. The bill would authorize the Department of Justice to promulgate regulations and provide additional information for the implementation of these provisions.

From the bill text

Wtf, then how do you buy a gun to train and practice with to take the class? lmao. GOD DANG LIBURALS!!!!!!Z

 

[grandpapeepap]

Wtf, then how do you buy a gun to train and practice with to take the class? lmao. GOD DANG LIBURALS!!!!!!Z

Yeah i have no idea, can you even rent or borrow a gun to do a training class with? would that need a background check to do?

 

[james350]

If this passes, and you plan to stop participating in serialized gun purchases when your FSC expires unless you want to spend hundreds to thousands extra for CA CCW; the last day to get your FSC or to renew is End of June 2028.

"This is me at the moment... lol"

Perfect!! that gives five years for litigation, which usually takes 10, but you could make a lot of purchases in that five years and not worry about it ever again

 

[chiroken007]

Full sponsorship also wasnt part of the conversation either. I only brought up a doctor and patient doing their thing. Abortion isnt used as a form of contraception. FDA doesnt intervene on pricing and other government entities as much as you think, see some hormone medicine patents being bought up and raised in price from 2k a vial to 29k a vial with no say from the government.

Most abortions are used for convenience. Maybe contraception isn’t the right word as conception happens. But it is used to abort gestation for convenience in most cases. So you’re splitting hairs there for no reason.

FDA approval is the authorized use of drugs not necessarily the price of drugs. That’s for negotiations etc through Medicare,Medicaid, ACA, etc. two different topics.

 

[grandpapeepap]

Most abortions are used for convenience. Maybe contraception isn’t the right word as conception happens. But it is used to abort gestation for convenience in most cases. So you’re splitting hairs there for no reason.

FDA approval is the authorized use of drugs not necessarily the price of drugs. That’s for negotiations etc through Medicare,Medicaid, ACA, etc. two different topics.

Framing it as "convenience" is just like you calling it contraception, also not the right word or reasoning. and FDA is about the approval of drugs not doctor patient stuff glad we got that government business between them out of the way, but we can stop derailing the thread where we probably both agree this bill sucks.

 

[Deleted member 46499]

Most abortions are used for convenience. Maybe contraception isn’t the right word as conception happens. But it is used to abort gestation for convenience in most cases. So you’re splitting hairs there for no reason.

FDA approval is the authorized use of drugs not necessarily the price of drugs. That’s for negotiations etc through Medicare,Medicaid, ACA, etc. two different topics.

95.9% of abortions are elective. Call medicaid get back on your meds grandpa

 

[Hit Factor]

Totally California logic

For the voters out there, let’s give credit where credit is due. Who’s running this state?

 

[grandpapeepap]

95.9% of abortions are elective. Call medicaid get back on your meds grandpa

elective = convenience huh. 99% of stats are made up on the spot. take your pills big guy

 

[chiroken007]

Sir… you can stay in your comfortable awareness.

No elective does not = convenient
(Majority of them are) but not all.

I am a licensed healthcare practitioner. I know what the various procedures are. When and how they are done. I know many women who have had abortions. For medical reasons, for emotional trauma reasons and for convenience. Most cases are convenience.

I also have worked hand in hand with alternative women’s health facilities other than planned parenthood and I have been on the frontlines fully aware of the inconvenient truths that have happened in planned parenthood such as tissue harvesting for stem cell research and black market therapies.
friends in my youth are the very ones who went undercover to reveal this atrocious inhumane abuse of life and tissue for financial gain in the black market… funded by government subsidies..

I sure hope they stopped the black market after getting exposed but guess what. politics saved their funding for the “greater good” and saved face by drowning out the story in noise and distraction.

 

[FunGun]

I'm wondering if and how our current FSC's will be considered. Will we be forced to apply for new ones or will they still retain their 5 year validity?
If our current ones are good to go, you can expect everyone and their dog lining up to renew their card in the weeks before the bill is in effect.

I wouldn't be surprised if they cancel all of the current ones. When I got my first FSC card in 2000 it was good for life. A couple years later all of the lifetime FSC cards were invalidated and new 5 year ones were required.

 

[grandpapeepap]

I wouldn't be surprised if they cancel all of the current ones. When I got my first FSC card in 2000 it was good for life. A couple years later all of the lifetime FSC cards were invalidated and new 5 year ones were required.

 

[chiroken007]

Yea, wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[shroom]

I'm interested what it's going to cost me to do a 5 hour training course, and how far I'm going to have to drive for it. There isn't a single shooting range inside my county.

Voter ID disenfranchises minorities or something, but this totally doesn't disenfranchise gun owners (also a minority in ca) right?

 

[chiroken007]

What county?

 

[grandpapeepap]

H.R.1457 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): IDs for an Inclusive Democracy Act

Summary of H.R.1457 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): IDs for an Inclusive Democracy Act

www.congress.gov

Heres a bill that would help create a national ID for people but it isnt being brought up to vote on