Is the P320 market dead?

[Jon F]

Update: my 2 year old M18 continues to perform flawlessly.

Carried daily as my CCW, it is cleaned and inspected, function tested every week and has a comfy ride in a Safariland retention holster. Only goes bang when I ask it to, roughly 2500 down the pipe now. Never thrown or dropped or used to hammer nails.

I have 5k through my m18 with zero UDs and zero malfunctions. It does have a Gray Guns sear and sear springs. It is on my CCW but I prefer to carry my P365.

 

[supermike]

 

[chefdude]

The only sig worth a damn are hammer fired sigs that being said, save your money and buy an HK or a Walther or a CZ

 

[NorCalBusa]

I have 5k through my m18 with zero UDs and zero malfunctions. It does have a Gray Guns sear and sear springs. It is on my CCW but I prefer to carry my P365.

Bruce Gray put a video up on FB, the first in a series he's doing on the P320 issue;

69K views · 819 reactions | From the desk of Bruce Gray... | Grayguns

From the desk of Bruce Gray...

www.facebook.com

 

[starbuck]

sig is proving a voluntary upgrade program

Check your serial here:

P320 Voluntary Upgrade Program | SIG SAUER

The P320® Voluntary Upgrade Program is a SIG SAUER initiative to upgrade P320 pistols at no additional cost.

www.sigsauer.com

 

[guncurious]

sig is proving a voluntary upgrade program

Check your serial here:

P320 Voluntary Upgrade Program | SIG SAUER

The P320® Voluntary Upgrade Program is a SIG SAUER initiative to upgrade P320 pistols at no additional cost.

www.sigsauer.com

This is for the old drop safety issue from years and years sgo, not long after the 320 first came out. It is not related to the current allegations of uncommanded pew pew.

 

[SLORNR]

This is for the old drop safety issue from years and years sgo, not long after the 320 first came out. It is not related to the current allegations of uncommanded pew pew.

Whaaaaaaaa

 

[FTSheartlesssYo]

I’ll snag one for under 350

 

[jarhead714]

I’ll snag one for under 350

I’d pay 6 bills for a nice X10.

 

[NorCalBusa]

This is for the old drop safety issue from years and years sgo, not long after the 320 first came out. It is not related to the current allegations of uncommanded pew pew.

2017 as I recall, P320 and variants were not being made then.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Every time you load and holster your Sig P320…

 

[22plinker]

Every time you load and holster your Sig P320…

Hahaha!!

 

[Plenty_Pack_556]

Hear Ye, Kan Ye!

Look.

Fellow P320 owners without me. Not every one of y'all is going to financially recover from your purchases, but that is a sacrifice you shall be willing to make.

And I shall be your savior. So sell to me, and I shall offer you 25 cents for every dollar your P320 is worth at retail costs.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Estate sale, like new, never fired by owner and only dropped once, and then it fired.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

See below

 

[cobian1984]

See below

 

[cali_jazz]

Official Statement from Sig​

P320 Safety Information

Recently, there have been a number of reports and claims regarding the safety of the P320 pistol and its use by the U.S. Military and law enforcement agencies. We understand you may have questions. We want to address your concerns and provide you with full, complete, and accurate information.

SIG SAUER has ALWAYS and will continue to put the safety and security of the U.S. Military, the law enforcement community, our consumers, and the public first. To this end, we want to be sure concerned citizens have access to complete facts.

The P320 pistol is one of the safest, most advanced pistols in the world -meeting and exceeding all industry safety standards. Its design has been thoroughly tested and validated by the U.S. Military and law enforcement agencies at the federal, state and local levels. In addition, the P320 has been rigorously tested, and is currently in use by militaries and law enforcement agencies around the world.

FBI Testing and Report

A recently publicized internal report from the FBI’s Ballistic Research Facility (BRF) created some confusion and raised questions about the safety of the P320. The FBI prepared this report for the Michigan State Police after an officer was involved in an accidental discharge. SIG SAUER engineers met with the FBI and Michigan State Police on several occasions to review the report and the incident. Ultimately, the FBI conducted a more detailed, repeatable, and comprehensive battery of testing using compatible equipment. The subsequent testing resulted in zero instances of failures and the Michigan State Police are now confidently issuing officers P320 based pistols. The FBI BRF have yetto make any official claims or statements regarding the safety of the P320 pistol or any of its variants. However, we are urging the FBI BRF and FBI Director Kash Patel to release a full and complete testing and evaluation report on their updated P320 safety testing.

Department of Homeland Security

An internal memo from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/ U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was recently posted online stating the agency was halting its use of the P320. Many online media outlets immediately sought to attribute this to the above referenced FBI BRF report, which is incorrect. DHS has never raised any safety concerns about the P320 and ICE has since extended their existing contract with SIG SAUER another two years. Since DHS has yet to comment publicly correcting their improperly leaked memo, or any statements questioning the safety of the P320, we are now urging ICE to release all information on P320 testing. SIG SAUER is honored to continue aiding ICE in their mission to protect America.

U.S. Air Force M18

There was a recent tragic incident at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Wyoming which resulted in the death of an Airman. Because the incident involved the discharge of a (P320 based) M18 pistol, the Air Force is actively conducting an evaluation of M18 pistols within the specific Command where the incident happened. This cautionary step is standard procedure. We proactively offered assistance to the U.S. military as they investigate the incident. Contrary to several online reports, (P320 based) M17 and M18 pistols remain on active duty with all branches of the U.S. Military, including the U.S. Air Force, defending freedom around the world. We have absolute confidence in the U.S. Military’s ability to conduct a thorough investigation and report their findings. As we learn more information about the investigation, we will continue to provide updated information.

P320 Range and Training Bans

Following several of these inaccurate reports, a number of ranges, training providers, and training facilities made the reactionary decision to ban the P320 and its use in their facilities. We are actively working to provide these individuals with accurate information along with a detailed understanding of the P320 and its safety features. If you are impacted by a P320 range or a training provider ban, we urge you to reach out to SIG CUSTOMER SERVICE: 603-610-3000 Option 1 or send a message here so we can clarify any misinformation and provide the truth.

The P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear. This has been verified through exhaustive testing by SIG SAUER engineers, the U.S. Military, several major federal and state law enforcement agencies, and independent laboratories. This video provides a detailed view into all of the various safety features of the P320 and provides a detailed explanation of how the safety system works; for further information on the P320 please visit here.

As with any gun, the P320 will discharge if the trigger is pulled to the rear. Accordingly, SIG SAUER continues to remind its customers, employees, and the public to employ all safe gun-handling practices as spelled out in detail in our product manuals. The SIG SAUER Academy remains a resource to customers, employees, and the public in offering various firearms safety courses.

We respect the public’s concern and are actively working to provide as much information as possible. We sincerely thank you for your continued support of SIG SAUER and urge anyone with additional questions or concerns regarding the P320 and/or safe firearms handling to reach out to our customer service team.


https://www.sigsauer.com/blog/sig-sauer-p320m18-and-p365-fielded-by-the-michigan-state-police

https://www.sigsauer.com/blog/unite...ds-sig-sauer-p320-contract-another-two-years-

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/arm...lKytK0AOQI4E23kpU_ggGkvqGbWMjvYFLIwvqM.SKxiWA

Video about safety functionality: https://cdn.bfldr.com/EN1VTHA0/at/5...lKytK0AOQI4E23kpU_ggGkvqGbWMjvYFLIwvqM.SKxiWA

 

[SteamedHams]

 

[doser]

Official Statement from Sig​

P320 Range and Training Bans

Following several of these inaccurate reports, a number of ranges, training providers, and training facilities made the reactionary decision to ban the P320 and its use in their facilities. We are actively working to provide these individuals with accurate information along with a detailed understanding of the P320 and its safety features. If you are impacted by a P320 range or a training provider ban, we urge you to reach out to SIG CUSTOMER SERVICE: 603-610-3000 Option 1 or send a message here so we can clarify any misinformation and provide the truth.

The P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear. This has been verified through exhaustive testing by SIG SAUER engineers, the U.S. Military, several major federal and state law enforcement agencies, and independent laboratories. This video provides a detailed view into all of the various safety features of the P320 and provides a detailed explanation of how the safety system works; for further information on the P320 please visit here.

 

[Ron Swanson]

That doesn’t sound like an upgrade or buy back offer.