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It’s cheap insurance , an affordable part that takes all of 10 minutes to change. I changed the trigger bar return spring at around 5300 rounds as a precaution.
Is the P320 market dead?
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ICE cans the Sig P320...
angryasian
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I did, but the other guy didnt.Wow, you couldn't comprehend the meaning of the below sentence typed in US English?
"The P365 is a totally different design than the the P320, with out any of the UD issues due to its proper striker safety design and a manual safety the works directly on the sear, so it should not be be confused with the P320's problems."
Crap, I'll have to put on the Dunce Cap and sit in the corner now!
Don't use "it" when comparing two different things with a run-on sentence.
"it" becomes relative depending on the usage of ; or , or "and" and therefore basically undefined.
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AR15barrels has been around forever and helpful on so many forums. Thank you for that
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Dude draws a lot of water and the newer folks that weren’t on Calguns would do well to read up when he types.
Whoops, typo...Thank you!! Good day sir!!
Geez people, there are plenty of videos I've posted here that show the P365's manual safety directly blocking the sear while the P320's manual safety doesn't.
For the last time...
a) The P320's manual safety does NOT block the sear, it only blocks the trigger.
b) The P365's manual safety does block the sear!
You mean...
I did, but the other guy didn't.
OK, grammer time LOL...
"The P365 is a totally different design than the the P320, with out any of the UD issues due to its proper striker safety design and a manual safety the works directly on the sear, so it should not be be confused with the P320's problems."
The P365 is clearly defined as the primary subject with "The P365 is a totally different design than the the P320", so the subsequent its should be defined as referring to the primary subject (P365), which is again defined by "so it (P365) should not be be confused with the P320's problems".
So...
"The P365 is a totally different design than the the P320, with out any of the UD issues due to its (P365) proper striker safety design and a manual safety the works directly on the sear, so it (P365) should not be be confused with the P320's problems."
I know, back in the corner with the Dunce Hat!
This says the P320 is out at ICE, and Glock just got a new contract from ICE?
https://www.usacarry.com/ice-drops-...s-for-duty-use-amid-civilian-market-pullback/
Forecast Record | Acquisition Planning Forecast System
Forecast of future DHS opportunities
apfs-cloud.dhs.gov
| Component: ICE/OD/OFTP | Published Date: Aug. 13, 2025, 10:33 a.m. | Previously Published On: |
| NAICS: 332994 - Small Arms, Ordnance, and Ordnance Accessories Manufacturing | Competition: NO |
| Small Business Set-Aside: N/A | Small Business Program: SB |
| Contract Vehicle: IDIQ TO/DO (Non Strategic Sourcing Vehicle Multiple Award Contract) | Contract Type: Firm Fixed Price |
| Contract Status: Recompetition | Incumbent: Glock Inc. |
| Contract Number: 70B06C19D00000007 | Anticipated Award Quarter: Q4 FY2025 |
| Estimated Solicitation Release: 2025-08-22 | Contract Complete: 2025-12-12 |
| Requirements Title: Glock 19 Duty Pistols and magazines | |
| Description: ICE/OFTP has a need for Glock 19 9mm pistols and equipment to support the Homeland Security Investigations (H.S.I.) and Enforcement Removal Operations (ERO) agents in the field. This purchase facilitates the conversion for the Agency (ICE) to a new duty weapon system. The delivery order will be placed against an existing IDIQ 70B06C19D00000007 administered by CBP. Per the Ordering Guide, no competition is required as this is a single award IDIQ vehicle and the awardee is Glock. No other vendors will receive the RFQ. | |
| Estimated Dollar Range: $250,000.00 to $500,000.00 | Place of Performance: Ft. Benning, GA |
| POC Name: Tony Ross | Alternate POC Name: Audie Person |
| POC Phone: (407) 440-5314 | Alternate POC Phone: (202) 253-1757 |
| POC Email: Tony.Ross@ice.dhs.gov | Alternate POC Email: Audie.J.Person@ice.dhs.gov |
| Small Business Specialist/APFS Coordinator POC Name: SAMUEL THOMPSON | |
| Small Business Specialist/APFS Coordinator POC Phone: (202) 329-0703 | Small Business Specialist/APFS Coordinator POC Email: Samuel.L.Thompson@ice.dhs.gov |
Whatever, I love my Sig P365, and I'm never going to buy a P320, so I'm out of this...
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Well, ICE just got a bunch funding. Why not. Surprised they did not ask for 19x. Unless it is just for CCW for plain cloth.
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Do they make one in that titanium rainbow finish? I saw in the classified section, this guy up north got a P238 in that finish man, never seen anything like it. Badass.
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Air Force review flags 191 Sig Sauer guns in need of repairs, clears remainder for use
The death of an airman on a base in Wyoming prompted a unit-wide review of the safety of the M18 pistol, a gun that has faced allegations it can fire unexpectedly. Sig Sauer maintains the weapon is safe, and the Air Force is returning it to service.
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More fodder for it. Looks like the issue is known
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Good thing the m-8 is back in service
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If this is the case I’m definitely buying one or two, years down the line they could be worth a good chunk.
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I wonder if SIG ever released the P211-GTO in Cali if people would buy it considering all that went down with the P320, in contrast to how hot/popular 2011's are in Cali rn.
I`d buy it. I have no problems with SIG, almost bought an MPX too (unfortunately that specific one got snagged, so I will eventually buy from some other place). And maybe few other SIG products.
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I would sure think they will release the p211-GTO to compete with the staccato hd4 and try to take the heat away from the 320. I know I’d buy a p211, sig typically makes a good gun but they screwed up with the 320 and just need to admit it.
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Of course, don't get me wrong, SIG is obviously 110% in the wrong for thow they handled the P320, but I used to own a P226 a few years ago and I loved that gun (only had to sell it because I was unemployed at the time and had some pretty pressing bills that needed to be paid), but if they bring the P211 here, I'd definitely be more than a little interested in it
Why is SIG wrong for "how they handled it?"
This is not a complex scenario. Their product was blamed without any evidence, the worst being a lame study by the FBI that proved absolutely nothing. And a bunch of clowns on YouTube capitalizing on the situation to get their likes and subscribes.
SIG defended their product. Naturally. With the same pride and confidence they would defend themselves against the anti-guns.
A product that has been tested over millions and millions and millions of rounds by themselves, the military, law enforcement and the public.
You and me would "handle it" in the same way, with vigorous defense, if our money, assets (and ass*s) were on the line. We're not going to back down and admit to something we didn't do.
We would defend what we know is RIGHT, against people trying to blame us for their own mishandling, and trying to getting money out of it.
This is not a complex scenario. Their product was blamed without any evidence, the worst being a lame study by the FBI that proved absolutely nothing. And a bunch of clowns on YouTube capitalizing on the situation to get their likes and subscribes.
SIG defended their product. Naturally. With the same pride and confidence they would defend themselves against the anti-guns.
A product that has been tested over millions and millions and millions of rounds by themselves, the military, law enforcement and the public.
You and me would "handle it" in the same way, with vigorous defense, if our money, assets (and ass*s) were on the line. We're not going to back down and admit to something we didn't do.
We would defend what we know is RIGHT, against people trying to blame us for their own mishandling, and trying to getting money out of it.
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