Staccato HD P4 warranty discussion by members

[Hindsight]

Were you not concerned about voiding your lifetime warranty? Also, I like the red dirt trigger, but after running many rounds through the HD P4 and C4X, prefer the Infinity flat trigger. A bit thinner on the trigger bow, but has a more tactile front face and feels slightly better machined overall.

Red dirt does offer more length adjustment as the F1 is a length that infinity doesn’t currently offer for the HD trigger (nothing below short).

The other upgrade I’d recommend to most, even for carry, is the extended HD mag release if you’ve rendered your MD obsolete/inactive.

Factory Glock mags recess the mag catch pretty flush with the grip. Even with the mec gars the extended mag release still fits in holsters that partially cover it like for Tenicor.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Were you not concerned about voiding your lifetime warranty? Also, I like the red dirt trigger, but after running many rounds through the HD P4 and C4X, prefer the Infinity flat trigger. A bit thinner on the trigger bow, but has a more tactile front face and feels slightly better machined overall.

Red dirt does offer more length adjustment as the F1 is a length that infinity doesn’t currently offer for the HD trigger (nothing below short).

The other upgrade I’d recommend to most, even for carry, is the extended HD mag release if you’ve rendered your MD obsolete/inactive.

Factory Glock mags recess the mag catch pretty flush with the grip. Even with the mec gars the extended mag release still fits in holsters that partially cover it like for Tenicor.

If they void it because of cosmetic work oh well. I like to work on my own stuff when I can. I just don’t worry about like that tbh.

Personally do not like extended mag releases especially on a carry piece.

I also like smooth triggers faces with no serrations.

Everyone is different, in likes/ needs

 

[drinktothat421]

I wouldnt know. I just shoot it and it feels fine. Left shooters small hands.

 

[Hindsight]

If they void it because of cosmetic work oh well. I like to work on my own stuff when I can. I just don’t worry about like that tbh.

Personally do not like extended mag releases especially on a carry piece.

I also like smooth triggers faces with no serrations.

Everyone is different, in likes/ needs

Yah, very high likelihood they'll reject it for any warranty work or covering servicing costs if it's related or if they just decide to after inspecting the gun after intake. But, like you said, only really an issue if you run into an issue you expect them to cover, you could still pay out of pocket to have it fixed, or if you end up selling it the resale value takes a decent hit without the transferable lifetime warranty.

The problem really is since the HD is proprietary and they don't sell the parts separately besides some spare springs and pins, it's hard to service it yourself.

Hasn't been a problem in maybe 20k rounds I have on the HD platform though, so not a big deal.

I wish Staccato offered their OEM flat smooth faced trigger as an option or part (they look a bit better than the red dirts in my opinion and tend to be better fit), but they can't for CA models as that renders the tab on the trigger assembly that makes up the MD system.

As for the mag release, if you've not had issues, the stock one is fine. I just noticed it barely raises the mag catch height from the stock, but provides enough distance that you can actually do reasonably fast reloads with the glock OEM mags. Otherwise the combination of how recessed the mag catch is and the fact that the polymer mags don't drop freely as well in general, can bind or swell compared to the metal mags, etc., made it a problem to reload at speed and the extended mag catch was probably one of the best 30 second upgrades I did for cheap.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Yah, very high likelihood they'll reject it for any warranty work or covering servicing costs if it's related or if they just decide to after inspecting the gun after intake. But, like you said, only really an issue if you run into an issue you expect them to cover, you could still pay out of pocket to have it fixed, or if you end up selling it the resale value takes a decent hit without the transferable lifetime warranty.

The problem really is since the HD is proprietary and they don't sell the parts separately besides some spare springs and pins, it's hard to service it yourself.

Hasn't been a problem in maybe 20k rounds I have on the HD platform though, so not a big deal.

I wish Staccato offered their OEM flat smooth faced trigger as an option or part (they look a bit better than the red dirts in my opinion and tend to be better fit), but they can't for CA models as that renders the tab on the trigger assembly that makes up the MD system.

As for the mag release, if you've not had issues, the stock one is fine. I just noticed it barely raises the mag catch height from the stock, but provides enough distance that you can actually do reasonably fast reloads with the glock OEM mags. Otherwise the combination of how recessed the mag catch is and the fact that the polymer mags don't drop freely as well in general, can bind or swell compared to the metal mags, etc., the extended mag catch was probably one of the best upgrades I did.

More and more online stores are selling Staccato HD, etc small parts and springs.

Worst case, I could machine a replacement part , just a complete PITA and I hate math.

 

[Hindsight]

More and more online stores are selling Staccato HD, etc small parts and springs.

Worst case, I could machine a replacement part , just a complete PITA and I hate math.

Glad to see it. It's got good bones.

And yes. I've got one of the best marvel spec builders (Eric Mercier) doing a complete rebuild and enhancement + dual barrel setup on a spare Atlas frame I wasn't using and I'll be twiddling my thumbs for almost a year before that's ready. Maybe less before I can shoot it in the white to test it out and make any adjustments.

 

[pancakes]

just buy a new gun it would be less work

 

[Hindsight]

just buy a new gun it would be less work

Who is this directed at/what is this in relation to?

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Getting back on track, voided warranties and super duper highend builders aside.

Waiting until next year to get a red dot since I need to try as many out to see what works with my astigmatism.

Wanted real iron sights, properly placed at rear. Decided to just reuse the optic cover plate instead of matching a whole new plate from scratch.

These are my new irons, still need to 50 lpi the rear face, knock corners of rear sight off, or do the pyramid style shape. I will file and sand the top of plate to match slide and permablue everything.

Iron sight plate is attached to optic cover plate by four screws through underside.

Looks really rough atm but will come together once I finish shaping, etc.

I like wide notch rear sights due to aging eyes, need more light on either side of front post.

Sorry for bad photos, but you get the gist.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

I’ll make a plug for the backup iron sights when I remove it.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Taking shape

 

[Joker67]

Nice work!!!

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Overall shape done of top plate. Now need to decide on rear sight shape. Leave blocky and knock off corners, or slant pyramid the sides.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Back up iron sight plug done and aluminum blued

 

[rodralig]

I noticed the trigger shoe is too long for me, short fingers, and that the “hot spot” on beaver tail/ frame area is real and painful in web of hand. No other 1911 I’ve ever owned or shot, even 1911a1 caused this before.

The beaver tail fit is also horrendous. But it is not all bad, gun recoils mildly and is accurate, I mean accurate.

Thanks for the post.

Yeah, I first heard about those hotspots around the Staccato's frame and beavertail during a defensive shooting class. That's actually one of the things holding me back. I'm not sure if they'd be an issue for me, and it seems like a hit-or-miss thing depending on the shooter.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Thanks for the post.

Yeah, I first heard about those hotspots around the Staccato's frame and beavertail during a defensive shooting class. That's actually one of the things holding me back. I'm not sure if they'd be an issue for me, and it seems like a hit-or-miss thing depending on the shooter.

Yeah, definitely shooter, grip and hand size dependent it seems. That and trigger length were the two things I knew I would “fix” after purchasing so was not a deal breaker for me.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Rear back up iron sight plug installed. Little glossy. Pic as it has oil on it to soak in for next 24 hour due to aluminum blueing process.

Will finish rear sight plate this week. Need to go buy some more sandpaper first.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Wiped most oil off for quick pic “better pic.”

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Okay, done for the day. Quick pic of how it sits before final shaping and deciding if I am going to pyramid shape the rear sight.

 

[drinktothat421]

A circle ring dot will likely give you the best clarity if you fine the dots too blurry.