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What do we think of the Mini 14?

By what metric, performance or fun? I’ll agree with the former but NEVER the latter!
You have to weigh my perspective because I’m older, but stay with me here. Back in the day (90’s) AR’s were $1000 and mini 14’s were $375. At that time the mini was rad because they were affordable, had minute of bad guy accuracy, and chugged along in a reliable manner. They were (can’t speak to the newer versions) a pain in the ass to field strip relative to an AR. I had a mini 14 issued to me at work at one point and owned one and was never anti.

BUT, eventually when I switched to an AR at work, and saw how accurate it was, and the prices of minis climbed and climbed to a place where they cost more than an AR to me it seems like the world is upside down. For current price points if you’re spending the same money I’d say the AR is the better product. Just my 2 cents..
 
If there are any doubts about Ruger’s upgrades to post-2005 units, this is a bone stock Ranch Rifle model shooting a CMP qualification at 300 and 600 yards.


 
I agree. I do like the Fightlite Scr though. Great design . But they are slightly more expensive than a mini 14 with some of the parts proprietary.
The fin grip , mag lock stuff needs to go away . CA doing what CA does.

The SCR cost a bit more than the Mini, but if you consider the costs of mags when you are first getting set up, it starts to even out. I wanted to have 6 mags as soon as I bouught the rifle. I think my mags for the SCR were about $15 each, $90 total, and mags for the Mini are around $40, $240 total. So that’s $150 less on mags, and you can buy even less expensive AR mags for the SCR if you want. And there are some other ways the SCR saves money over a Mini if you want to do things like mount accessories. The SCR has the flat top rail and full M-LOK handguard, while the Mini doesn’t come with any accessory mounting.

I don’t like the fin grips and mag lock systems either, so for me, something like a Mini-14, SCR, Sig MCX Regulator, CMMG BR-4, etc. is the way to go.

I tried the Fightlite SCR, and honestly liked the mini 14’s manual of arms better.

I can understand that. It depends a bit on your style of shooting or the particular shooting activity, though.

Im not familiar with the Flightlite SCR. How’d you like it in terms of shootability, accuracy, etc.?

I am just getting started really testing the accuracy, but it seems pretty good quickly sighting it in at just 25m in prone, unsupported. About 4 MOA between me and the rifle. So the rifle is probably 1 or 2? In the next few weeks, I’m going to take it somewhere I can shoot it out to 200 yards, and then we will see what we are really dealing with. I think for that kind of use, shooting at distance with optics, the SCR will be much better than the Mini.

So, just about any AR-15 5.56 upper will mate to a Fightlite SCR lower. So accuracy is gauge by your uppers quality/spec

However, The Gen 1’s had a pretty horrible trigger, with the Gen 2 you get a better trigger, but nothing like an aftermarket AR-15 trigger. The SCR is almost all proprietary so no go on aftermarket help for lower, etc. not popular enough US wide I guess.

If you like hunting rifles, or mini 14, shotgun stocks then it feels fine. If you are more comfortable with modern arms, pistol grips, ergonomics, etc then you will probably be disappointed.

That’s one of the reasons I picked an SCR over a Mini, the ability to use AR uppers on a lower with a traditional compliant stock. I have the second generation, and the trigger is ok, not great, not terrible. But that trigger is proprietary, so there aren’t any other choices. I’ve heard of people tuning up those triggers, but don’t know anything about how well that works out.

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The mag release is too far forward for strong hand, so you will have to break your grip, or use your weak hand to reach around to hit mag release as it is not Ambi. Definitely slower than a standard AR, and I find the Mini 14 or M1A easier to change mags on with push paddle release

I sold it because I was not a fan of mag changes or manual of arms with the hunting style stock with rear charging handle. Would rather rock a mini 14 tbh. And yes, you can get a side charging upper, but they are all kinda meh

I put an ambi mag release on mine, so I can drop mags from either side. If you do shooting activities where you shoot from standing, and you need to do fast mag changes, it’s probably not the best, but can be workable. You would keep your trigger hand grip, drop the mag with the left hand using the left side ambi release, then grab the new mag with the left hand, insert it, and drop the bolt with the left side bolt release. There’s an extra step in there compared to a featureless AR, but a featureless AR makes it hard to hold the rifle with the rigger hand grip. With a mini, it’s not much different is it, if you wanted to maintain the trigger hand grip? I’ve never tried it. So to me, those are all kind of compromised compared to a non-CA AR.

I do some shooting activities with my mag changes in prone, and a sling on my left arm. So I’m not using my left hand. With the SCR, I break my trigger hand grip, drop the mag using the right-side mag release, grab my mag with my right hand, insert it. And then I drop the bolt by reaching my thumb between the trigger and the magwell to reach the bolt release on the left side. It’s an awkward step, but it’s actually something you can do with an SCR that you cannot do with a traditional AR. And to me, this process is not much more awkward than a mag change in the same position with a mini.

I do agree that using the charging handle with a traditional stock is not great though. I bought an Ambi charging handle with makes it easier, but it’s still not great.

I’m not knocking Fightlite though, they gave us an alternative to neutered AR’s in State; and I knew of a few people who really liked theirs. Take my experience and opinions as a consideration, but ultimately try one out for yourself if interested. My SCR lower was quality built.

I agree that it’s quality built. It’s not for everyone, but I don’t like the “neutered ARs”, as you said!
 
Thanks for such a thorough, thoughtful reply!

My only semi-auto rifle is my father’s old M1 Carbine, which is the rife he taught me to shoot with. I love it for sentimental reasons. But I would like something that doesn’t feel like tinkering on a classic car.

I’ve been considering a Mini by default because of nostalgia and my familiarity with its operation.

Please let us know how SCR does when you do your longer range work-up.
 
Thanks for such a thorough, thoughtful reply!

My only semi-auto rifle is my father’s old M1 Carbine, which is the rife he taught me to shoot with. I love it for sentimental reasons. But I would like something that doesn’t feel like tinkering on a classic car.

I’ve been considering a Mini by default because of nostalgia and my familiarity with its operation.

Please let us know how SCR does when you do your longer range work-up.

Will do! 👍
 
Samson Manufacturing makes a great Mini folding stock called the A-TM that looks almost identical to the original folding stocks, but has a better grip than the somewhat fragile bakelite grips on the old ones. Super solid. https://www.samson-mfg.com/a-tm-folding-stock-for-the-ruger-mini-14-copy.html

Obviously can't use it in CA at this time, but they do make one for the 10/22 as well called the B-TM
 
I live in California too, and I got a Figjtlite SCR as a way to have a compliant "featureless" rifle. It reminds me of what you might end up with if a Mini-14 and an AR had a baby. The mini was on my short list for my first centerfire rifle, but I wanted to use it at events shooting out to 400 (maybe 600) yards, and I needed to be able to mount a scope on it easily and get everything dialed in for good, ergonomic eye alignment with the scope. For that use, I was steered away from the Mini. I think this SCR is going to work out well once I get a chance to try it out to the longer distances. I still would like to get a Mini someday for the fun and nostalgia.
I too went the Fightlite SCR route, buying the lower and building an 18" .223 Wylde upper, love it!
 
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Well I just recently bought one off a fellow cal gunner. It’s a newer one (580+) and I love it. Being in Commiefornia, I wanted to stay away from all the AR BS restrictions. Put an archangel precision tan stock and I love it. Go between a red dot and lpvo. Also got a bipod on it it’s just a blast to run. My 17yr old son loves it as well.
 

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I had one about ten years ago. It was the definition of "okay". Not a marksman rifle but i'm also not a marksman. I sold it because of the magazines; I absolutely hated the design. Would rather have a bastardized AR than a Mini 14.
 
The new Mini 14’s (580 series) are very accurate. I shot my friend’s AR-15 side by side with my mini 14 at 50 yards and both were just about as accurate. If you are not accurate with a new mini it’s because of you and not the rifle.
 
That’s a pretty liberal use of the word accurate. I love minis but in general mini are not as accurate as ar15s. I’ve shot many ar15 variants that shoot well under sub MOA. I’ve never shot or seen a sub MOA mini
 
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I think they are super cool, but too expensive these days. If they were closer to 10/22 price I’d buy one, but for $1k, I’ll stick to the AR platform.
 
I completely agree. The rock solid reliability is a huge draw but the old $800 price tag was more appropriate in my opinion. When I was a kid they were $550
 
i sure do wish i had one and if it were not for this california dictatorship, i would have one

i cannot put into words of how much neglect i did when it comes to buying guns back in the 90s. i always told myself i will get it later on in life
 
Mini -14’s are really cool guns and are an American classic. I love my Mini-14. I like them just the way they are and wouldn’t try to make it super tactical looking because to me that is not what the rifle is designed for. If I wanted a tactical rifle I’d just build an AR-15 from a stripped lower. That being said they are not a sub-MOA gun and are not designed to be either. They are accurate enough to get the job done being a ranch rifle or the shoot some decent groups out to 100 yards with iron sights.
 
If they updated the Mini 14 to take STANAG Mags I would buy one again.

The proprietary expensive Ruger mags are the only downside to me.
Yah I get that but the OEM Ruger mags are durable as hell and good quality. They also come in 20 and 30 round configurations which is great too.
 
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