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If back in 2015 someone (not to be confused with SomeOne
) told me the barrels will become a controlled part, and Glocks will be banned in California, I would laugh. Ten years out, we are living this nightmare.
The trend in California supports this! California will continue to inch forward. I mean, we have now had an ammo background check, and barrel background checks. California overwhelmingly supports these stricter and stricter gun control measures.
It says specifically that the only thing that can change is the mechanism that allows the switch but if they fix that they don't have to go through testing
Only if submitted for testing before 01/01/2027
So is putting your head in the sand like an ostrich. I'm sorry, but Democrats, while they have had some good bills/ ideas over the years, will never be happy until there is a total ban on all firearms and a repeal of the 2nd Amendment.
Correct but they've already fixed it on gen 5 so they can fix it if they want to right away, I doubt they will though because that would admit Glock Imperfection
Why would they sell them at a loss? Even if they sold them at cost: $440 + DROS $37.19 -- should be $447.19... tack on 21%ish for taxes and they are at a loss...strange...and they are throwing in a $15 mag..
I had a feeling that’s about what standard cost was. I would really like to know what actual build cost is for glock. Has got to be less than $100?
So you think you could get manufacturers to CHOOSE to not sell their products to a market the size of CA?
Gen 5 won't pass the roster tests.
to be fair the roster was closed until 2023 becuase of microstamping and gen 5 came out in 2017, I do agree that Glock isn't interested because it would ruin their "perfection" to do anything besides the bare minimum 5 years after everyone else does.
Manufacturers would have to pull dealer/distributor licenses from anyone willing to cross the line. Not saying it would work for sure but it would definitely put a strain on departments and unions. Im talking ammo guns gear everything. But the position of the manufacturers at present time isn't exactly working in the average citizens favor. What did Knights Armament do when they got banned by name?
Complete re-design like... how Shadow Systems and Ruger have already figured out the LCI and mag disconnect on a Gen4/5 Glock?
Yes.
Because its already a great design that shouldn't be burdened by California's bs. Glock is really where its at. Less parts parts availability reliability etc. Its like 90% of real world use coverage. Now for extreme ends of the shooting disciplines there are obviously performance limits that are more easily achieved with different platforms. The only thing I wish they would let us try out is the glock 46 without the euro trigger weights.
An updated G5 would require some re-engineering and re-tooling. It's understandable Glock would resist this up to now as it would cannibalize the Gen3 line which has been produced for years. Now that the Gen3 is being shut down, they may finally have the motivation to update something for the California market. At least that's my hope.
Glock is proud of their simple and reliable design. There must be a real strong motivation to change the life-long company mission. It's not really just a few extra parts, it's a philosophical shift.
It is supposedly going to have a completely different trigger system. So, the potential is there if that is true. From what I understand it will be a cassette style trigger.
