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If you don’t have to engrave anymore how do you show your “pistol” is actually an AOW
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My AR pistol didn't need engraving. But it's also not an NFA itemIf you don’t have to engrave anymore how do you show your “pistol” is actually an AOW
Ar Pistol isn't the only Ar that can be a AOW.If you don’t have to engrave anymore how do you show your “pistol” is actually an AOW
ok...? I never said that. Thanks captain obvious lolAr Pistol isn't the only Ar that can be a AOW.
Yeah again I am asking about making AOW's please stay on topic guys lolMy AR pistol didn't need engraving. But it's also not an NFA item
Was addressing your question about the engravingYeah again I am asking about making AOW's please stay on topic guys lol
you said you don't have a NFA AOW though. I am asking about making an AOW. Now that no registration is requiredWas addressing your question about the engraving
Sounds like they're saying we need to join GOA and engrave?It only let me attach 4 images in the last post, here are two more from 2AZone
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Just wait on approval. You don’t know what next administration will do and they can reverse it. I have one nfa sbr and they engraved the inner magwell. Might do another but leaning towards going from 556 to 300bo or 9mm on that one.Mine is engraved because I had it done a while ago, and still waiting for ATF approval. But now I don't know what to do.
If you don’t have to engrave anymore how do you show your “pistol” is actually an AOW
The atf announced this new change is for All Americans. Not just those that joined a organization.Sounds like they're saying we need to join GOA and engrave?
Yeah it’s not a rifle and it’s not a pistol in clown world legal terms so it’s AOWWish I understood this better. These laws make no sense. An AOW is just a short barreled weapon with a vertical grip?
You have to start with a firearm that was never designed or redesigned to fire from the shoulder. That rules out rifles and shotguns.Wish I understood this better. These laws make no sense. An AOW is just a short barreled weapon with a vertical grip?
I still don't really get what this would open up though because don't they still have to be maglocked? And because of the roster aren't we still blocked from buying just about everything that this would qualify under? Like what's the difference if you SSE a pistol lower and then just keep it as a pistol vs making it AOW?You have to start with a firearm that was never designed or redesigned to fire from the shoulder. That rules out rifles and shotguns.
If you have a firearm that fires shotgun shells, but came from the factory with only a pistol grip (no stock), then that can be made into an AOW (regardless of having a VFG or not).
Pistols ‘become’ AOWs when you add a VFG.
And generally AOW’s have to be <26” OAL.
Then there are the ‘other’ firearms like the Mossberg Shockwave, haha!! 14” barrels, pistol grip only, OAL just over 26”. Those can be sold via 4473 without NFA registration (not in CA).
This is not an all-inclusive list of course. AOWs are fun, but you have to pay attention to what you’re doing.
Vertical foregripI still don't really get what this would open up though because don't they still have to be maglocked? And because of the roster aren't we still blocked from buying just about everything that this would qualify under? Like what's the difference if you SSE a pistol lower and then just keep it as a pistol vs making it AOW?
Yeah that's why I lost my excitement, you can't use more than a 10 round mag and have to be maglocked so the gun is still a gimped POS. You just get a VFG that's it. I'll wait for the SC ruling this summer when they strike down the AW ban and just have a normal gun instead of building some compliance model just to go obsolete 4 months laterI still don't really get what this would open up though because don't they still have to be maglocked? And because of the roster aren't we still blocked from buying just about everything that this would qualify under? Like what's the difference if you SSE a pistol lower and then just keep it as a pistol vs making it AOW?
is that really it? You can just use a slightly angled foregrip. no one actually shoots a gun using the foregrip as a grip like in 80s movies, it's really just a hand stop to index fromVertical foregrip
yupis that really it? You can just use a slightly angled foregrip. no one actually shoots a gun using the foregrip as a grip like in 80s movies, it's really just a hand stop to index from