Cheapest way to get ammo

[Hit Factor]

It’s not just ammo trafficking that’s under surveillance, it’s also firearm trafficking. A quick Google search should change your skepticism real quick. But hey, I just making it all up. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Don’t forget ferret smuggling.

 

[ar15robert]

Don’t forget ferret smuggling.

fireworks and aluminum cans from out of state too,

 

[OCFerrariguy]

It’s not just ammo trafficking that’s under surveillance, it’s also firearm trafficking. A quick Google search should change your skepticism real quick. But hey, I just making it all up. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Trafficking is a different situation than a person buying for personal use ammo. What you’re describing is in fact pallets of ammo being brought in for purposes outside personal use. They aren’t busting the guy buying two cases of 9mm for personal use.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

Trafficking is a different situation than a person buying for personal use ammo. What you’re describing is in fact pallets of ammo being brought in for purposes outside personal use. They aren’t busting the guy buying two cases of 9mm for personal use.

Even as an FFL03/COE holder I can't legally sell ammo.

 

[gurshanmalhi]

Even as an FFL03/COE holder I can't legally sell ammo.

Hold up really? I thought you could still sell PPT later on.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

Hold up really? I thought you could still sell PPT later on.

Yep, I checked it out, but feel free to independently verify.

 

[Scubabugdiver]

Trafficking is a different situation than a person buying for personal use ammo. What you’re describing is in fact pallets of ammo being brought in for purposes outside personal use. They aren’t busting the guy buying two cases of 9mm for personal use.

When I said pallets of ammo, I was being facetious towards Hit Factor. In Penal Code 30314, nowhere does it say you’re exempt from the law based on the quantity you bring in. This is the law. For the skeptics, go ahead and call popular gun stores in Yuma. See what they tell you about this. I’m not arguing with you, I’m only trying to give you the facts. If you chose to ignore the law, that’s on you. But I can tell you, this has happened. And most gun enthusiast here in San Diego know about it. And FYI, “bringing in two cases of 9mm” is trafficking. First violation is a $250 fine, second violation is $1000 fine or six months in jail. Again, not worth saving $40 on a case of ammo. If this wasn’t an issue, every swinging Richard here in San Diego would be making runs to Yuma to buy ammo. Odds of getting caught, slim. But I wouldn’t risk it. AGAIN, THIS IS THE LAW. NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH ME. I DIDN’T WRITE THE LAW. TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR LOCAL CONGRESSMAN.

California Penal Code 30314 prohibits residents from bringing or transporting ammunition obtained outside California into the state unless it is first delivered to a licensed vendor for processing. This regulation, effective January 1, 2018, requires out-of-state purchases to go through authorized, face-to-face dealer transfers. A first violation is generally an infraction (up to $250 fine), while subsequent offenses can be

• Penalties: A first violation is an infraction (fine < $250). A second violation may be charged as a misdemeanor (up to 6 months in jail and/or $1,000

 

[Hit Factor]

But I can tell you, this has happened. And most gun enthusiast here in San Diego know about it.

Well, they wouldn’t let you post it on the internet if it wasn’t true, right? I mean, if you’re going to launch a multi-agency, multi-jurisdictional “sting” operation with realtime cooperation between the federal government and two different states, you might as well go after lawful gun owners with legally-purchased boxes of ammo. So did the offender receive a stern warning or was he actually charged with an infraction?

 

[Deleted member 16735]

I'm not saying it's never happened but does it make sense to have multiple agency sting operations where the penalty is less than a speeding ticket? And none of that money would go to agencies outside CA so why would they care? I would guess that if this is a thing that they are looking for cartel smugglers that bring guns and ammo to Mexico.

 

[Scubabugdiver]

This person was charged with an infraction. Other than that, I don’t much more about it. Just trying to share this information with people on the forum. They can choose to use this info how they want. Definitely not in a position to argue about it because it wasn’t my experience.

 

[Scubabugdiver]

I'm not saying it's never happened but does it make sense to have multiple agency sting operations where the penalty is less than a speeding ticket? And none of that money would go to agencies outside CA so why would they care? I would guess that if this is a thing that they are looking for cartel smugglers that bring guns and ammo to Mexico.

You need to think bigger picture here. From what I understand, when these operations do happen, they look for people buying high capacity magazines, ammunition and watching for gun store owners or employees who may also be involved. I guess when they cast their net, they catch all different sizes of fish. And when they do “cast their net” you don’t want to be swimming through it with your “two cases of 9mm”.

“I can only lead a horse to water”.

 

[GoldensRule]

You need to think bigger picture here. From what I understand, when these operations do happen, they look for people buying high capacity magazines, ammunition and watching for gun store owners or employees who may also be involved. I guess when they cast their net, they catch all different sizes of fish. And when they do “cast their net” you don’t want to be swimming through it with your “two cases of 9mm”.

“I can only lead a horse to water”.

This is exactly the bottom line. Be smart, drive to Tucson!

 

[Scubabugdiver]

This is exactly the bottom line. Be smart, drive to Tucson!

To bring this thread back to its original point (where to get cheap ammo), I think you’re jumping over dollars to save dimes driving to Yuma, especially driving to Tucson.

 

[Deleted member 16735]

or better yet just reload, my 9mm is 14 cents and my 223 is about 28 cents.

 

[GoldensRule]

To bring this thread back to its original point (where to get cheap ammo), I think you’re jumping over dollars to save dimes driving to Yuma, especially driving to Tucson.

Ammo was not my primary focus. If people insist on breaking California's firearms and accessory laws, they should at least make an effort to not get caught when they walk out of the store. Of course, I advise everyone to comply with all laws and fight those laws in a proper fashion.

PS. And resist the temptation to brag about your misadventures on this site or anywhere for that matter. Law enforcement is using advanced AI tools to monitor social media and sites like this and it is super easy for LE to identify virtually any user of this site.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

or better yet just reload, my 9mm is 14 cents and my 223 is about 28 cents.

Gotta factor in sunk costs for equipment, consumables, and your labor time to reload, plus the space it takes up in your home.

I can imagine that people probably enjoy this process and it's probably efficient once everything is in-place and working.

This does create some extra work at the range to retrieve and transport your shells too, with some extra lead exposure from handling and transporting spent shells.

 

[Scubabugdiver]

I only reload bolt action rifle cartridges and straight wall pistol cartridges like 38 Special and 357. Really easy to do when it comes right out of the action, or out of the cylinders. No bending over to pick up brass.

 

[Bobalover209]

Yep, I checked it out, but feel free to independently verify.

You can sell ammo but it's not a perk of the ffl03/COE, it's just like any other private transaction of 500 rounds/month limit through an FFL as the seller. No limit on how much you can buy via ppt as a buyer.

 

[Bobalover209]

Ammo was not my primary focus. If people insist on breaking California's firearms and accessory laws, they should at least make an effort to not get caught when they walk out of the store. Of course, I advise everyone to comply with all laws and fight those laws in a proper fashion.

PS. And resist the temptation to brag about your misadventures on this site or anywhere for that matter. Law enforcement is using advanced AI tools to monitor social media and sites like this and it is super easy for LE to identify virtually any user of this site.

I was told to mind my own business when I told someone what they were posting on here was illegal in another thread lol.

I guess the consensus on this forum by it's members is to just let people post about their illegal activities. Not the smartest but hey, any misfortune is their own doing.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

You can sell ammo but it's not a perk of the ffl03/COE, it's just like any other private transaction of 500 rounds/month limit through an FFL as the seller. No limit on how much you can buy via ppt as a buyer.

Through an FFL, that makes sense, but it would be nice to be able to sell it without an FFL.