FFL's that do PPT's for $47.19

[KingRansom]

If you are in or close to Ventura county go to Camarillo gun store. $47.19 and they are lightning quick. One of the true gun stores that absolutely has their together

 

[Constitutional Armory]

If you are in or close to Ventura county go to Camarillo gun store. $47.19 and they are lightning quick. One of the true gun stores that absolutely has their together

How do dealers get around the cable lock requirement if buyer needs one when they pickup

 

[KingRansom]

How do dealers get around the cable lock requirement if buyer needs one when they pickup

Don't know, not my problem

 

[shooterMcGavin]

How do dealers get around the cable lock requirement if buyer needs one when they pickup

If there’s a will, there’s a way

 

[Gawernator]

How do dealers get around the cable lock requirement if buyer needs one when they pickup

Gun safe affidavit.

 

[foexone]

Burbank Ammo and Guns. Just did a PPT there on Friday and that was the exact cost. $47.19

 

[broccoliavenger1]

Manzano's in San Jose does it right. $47.19 out the door, no storage, no forced purchase of lock, etc. Pure professionalism and they get you in and out pretty quickly.

Went in there and did a ppt the other day. Was in and out in like 15 minutes filling everything out. Super helpful. Solar tactical in Livermore was the same.

 

[AR15barrels]

Gun safe affidavit.

Safe affidavit only works for long guns.
Handguns need locks to satisfy federal law.

 

[Gawernator]

Safe affidavit only works for long guns.
Handguns need locks to satisfy federal law.

Wellll that didn’t stop the FFL LOL

 

[Constitutional Armory]

Safe affidavit only works for long guns.
Handguns need locks to satisfy federal law.

Actually safe affadivit works for handguns also. Where does it say it's not for handgun?

 

[cv123]

Turner’s Fountain Valley.. Fast and efficient. Very good customer service. Went on Monday, store’s not busy so we were taken care of right away. I brought a new lock. Buyer only paid $47.19

 

[AR15barrels]

Actually safe affadivit works for handguns also. Where does it say it's not for handgun?

For the state, but not the ATF.
FFL's have to follow both State and Federal laws.
Youth Handgun Safety Act (YHSA) (18 U.S.C. § 922(x)

 

[Gawernator]

For the state, but not the ATF.
FFL's have to follow both State and Federal laws.
Youth Handgun Safety Act (YHSA) (18 U.S.C. § 922(x)

The CA safe affidavit can work for California’s FSD requirement, including handguns. But for an FFL handgun transfer there is also the federal Child Safety Lock Act, 18 USC 922(z), which requires the licensee to provide a secure gun storage or safety device with the handgun. If the pistol comes with a factory lock or the FFL provides one, that solves the federal side. A safe affidavit alone is where shops may disagree, because it proves the buyer owns a safe but does not necessarily show the FFL “provided” the device. (you were close)

 

[AR15barrels]

(you were close)

I was actually spot-on:

FFL's have to follow both State and Federal laws.

That includes all the federal laws.

 

[Gawernator]

For the state, but not the ATF.
FFL's have to follow both State and Federal laws.
Youth Handgun Safety Act (YHSA) (18 U.S.C. § 922(x)

If you're going to pretend to be a super smart know-it-all shouldn't you actually post correct info? I was letting it slide but you doubled down on being wrong, which is just embarrassing for a pro. It's ok to say you made a mistake and cited a different law, why spin the tires?

I was actually spot-on:

That includes all the federal laws.

(x)
(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile—
(A)
a handgun; or
(B)
ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.


(2) It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to knowingly possess—
(A)
a handgun; or
(B)
ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.


(3)This subsection does not apply to—
(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and used by the juvenile—
(i)
in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile (or on property used for ranching or farming at which the juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee, is performing activities related to the operation of the farm or ranch), target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;
(ii) with the prior written consent of the juvenile’s parent or guardian who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing a firearm, except—
(I)
during transportation by the juvenile of an unloaded handgun in a locked container directly from the place of transfer to a place at which an activity described in clause (i) is to take place and transportation by the juvenile of that handgun, unloaded and in a locked container, directly from the place at which such an activity took place to the transferor; or
(II)
with respect to ranching or farming activities as described in clause (i), a juvenile may possess and use a handgun or ammunition with the prior written approval of the juvenile’s parent or legal guardian and at the direction of an adult who is not prohibited by Federal, State or local law from possessing a firearm;
(iii)
the juvenile has the prior written consent in the juvenile’s possession at all times when a handgun is in the possession of the juvenile; and
(iv)
in accordance with State and local law;
(B)
a juvenile who is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard who possesses or is armed with a handgun in the line of duty;
(C)
a transfer by inheritance of title (but not possession) of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile; or
(D)
the possession of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile taken in defense of the juvenile or other persons against an intruder into the residence of the juvenile or a residence in which the juvenile is an invited guest.


(4)
A handgun or ammunition, the possession of which is transferred to a juvenile in circumstances in which the transferor is not in violation of this subsection shall not be subject to permanent confiscation by the Government if its possession by the juvenile subsequently becomes unlawful because of the conduct of the juvenile, but shall be returned to the lawful owner when such handgun or ammunition is no longer required by the Government for the purposes of investigation or prosecution.


(5)
For purposes of this subsection, the term “juvenile” means a person who is less than 18 years of age.




You incorrectly quoted this law.

Child Safety Lock Act, 18 USC 922(z) is the governing law here.

(z) Secure Gun Storage or Safety Device.—
(1) In general.—
Except as provided under paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer any handgun to any person other than any person licensed under this chapter, unless the transferee is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device (as defined in section 921(a)(34)) for that handgun.


(2) Exceptions.—Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—
(A)
(i)
the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by, the United States, a department or agency of the United States, a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, of a handgun; or
(ii)
the transfer to, or possession by, a law enforcement officer employed by an entity referred to in clause (i) of a handgun for law enforcement purposes (whether on or off duty); or
(B)
the transfer to, or possession by, a rail police officer directly employed by or contracted by a rail carrier and certified or commissioned as a police officer under the laws of a State of a handgun for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);
(C)
the transfer to any person of a handgun listed as a curio or relic by the Secretary pursuant to section 921(a)(13); or
(D)
the transfer to any person of a handgun for which a secure gun storage or safety device is temporarily unavailable for the reasons described in the exceptions stated in section 923(e), if the licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, or licensed dealer delivers to the transferee within 10 calendar days from the date of the delivery of the handgun to the transferee a secure gun storage or safety device for the handgun.

 

[Constitutional Armory]

This is how I been doing it for years is if you don't have CA approved cable lock that's purchased within 30 days then you sign a safe affadivit or buy a 3$ lock from me that satisfy ca side. So 99 percent handguns come with a lock and depends some will come with ca approved lock so in that case it will serve as ca and federal compliance. But if not then the customer can bring any kind of cable lock just to satisfy the federal side.

 

[nescott24]

Did a ppt at Gun World in Burbank early this year and was charged $20 for a lock. :/

Most expensive lock I bought by far. I avoid this place now.

Do like the idea of being able to return the lock. Will ask the shop next time if it’s allowed.

Currently have an ammo container full of locks collecting dust.

 

[AR15barrels]

If you're going to pretend to be a super smart know-it-all shouldn't you actually post correct info?
I was letting it slide but you doubled down on being wrong, which is just embarrassing for a pro.
It's ok to say you made a mistake and cited a different law, why spin the tires?

Because it makes no difference if the quotation was 2 letters off.
All the (small letters) of 18 USC 922 have to be complied with.

 

[painkiller]

Zaks guns in madera

 

[weaverftw]

I’ve never seen this in Sac, every place I’ve been to has been the standard fee. How can they force you to buy a lock when they have the safe affidavit? Will they not let you sign that? Does that not satisfy the lock requirement? I’m confused I’ve always just signed that piece of paper instead of providing/buying a lock