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Hate gun roster, hmm how about tire roster?

Toilet roster incoming, Rob Bonta personally comes out to inspect that we are taking high efficiency dumps and are following "if it's yellow let it mellow"
 
CadeH said:
Toilet roster incoming, Rob Bonta personally comes out to inspect that we are taking high efficiency dumps and are following "if it's yellow let it mellow"
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Water efficient appliances including toilets have been mandated for a long time and have saved a ton of water. It's hard to take anyone in the thread seriously, the victim mentality is weak.
 
HE tires usually don't perform well, and people have different use cases. Just ridiculous. I love the extremecontact DWS 6 on my golf, really great grip and performs in water and snow even while still having good tire life. But it's not a "HE" tire.
 
RustVendor said:
The resistance rating is based on physics and the savings of mpg is like 1-2 mpg. if a set of tires lasts 50k and you get 26 mpg vs 25 mpg you would use 78 less gallons of fuel which at 5 a gallon is 398 dollars savings. if you paid double for the Michelins vs the other tires the savings would be a wash but I would bet they weren't double. I don't think they should have jumped to a ban on low efficiency tires from the jump, I would rather see a rating system and incentives for fuel saving tires first. But no one in this thread has data to refute the concept either. incidentally Michelin supported this bill, I don't know if that's good or bad. But I'm not ready to get upset about the bill until I see data that makes me upset.
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this stems more than what is written. this means california has moved to a position where they will tell you what you can purchase and what you cannot, along with how you are ALLOWED to live in california. this is the problem here. California has taken upon themselves to dictate people's lives against their will when we are supposed to be a free choice type system. this is part of the WEF agenda. california is a participant in the WEF agenda and they will do anything to continue this agenda, hence stuff like this tire shenanigans. this is still only the beginning, there will be more of this type of stuff coming from california until we remove these california politicians
 
MK6M9 said:
this stems more than what is written. this means california has moved to a position where they will tell you what you can purchase and what you cannot, along with how you are ALLOWED to live in california. this is the problem here. California has taken upon themselves to dictate people's lives against their will when we are supposed to be a free choice type system. this is part of the WEF agenda. california is a participant in the WEF agenda and they will do anything to continue this agenda, hence stuff like this tire shenanigans. this is still only the beginning, there will be more of this type of stuff coming from california until we remove these california politicians
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Environmental regulations are nothing new here and are generally very popular, I would just move if I felt like a victim, it must be exhausting to be this paranoid
 
RustVendor said:
Environmental regulations are nothing new here and are generally very popular, I would just move if I felt like a victim, it must be exhausting to be this paranoid
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yeah, the california EPA has been a problem that needs to be addressed also
also, what is with you throwing around that we are claiming to be victims? victims of what?
 
MK6M9 said:
what is meant by this? i am not sure what this is even supposed to mean.
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I mean you think they are out to get you, that the elections are rigged, that the EPA is a problem, but you can't actually identify or defend those positions because you don't even know why you think that except you feel like a victim. All you do is complain
 
RustVendor said:
But how do you regulate that? That's not something that's feasible or even desirable.
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Exactly!!

This parallels the gun control debate. It's rarely possible to regulate human behavior, and it's human behavior that is the very core element in all of this.

So what is really being accomplished? Posturing. Posing. "Look what we have done!" intone the regulators and politicians. "... For the Children! No less!"
 
RustVendor said:
Water efficient appliances including toilets have been mandated for a long time and have saved a ton of water. It's hard to take anyone in the thread seriously, the victim mentality is weak.
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You would think that claiming that Rob Bonta is going to personally verify that we are letting it mellow if its yellow would make it obvious that I was joking
 
Experimentalist said:
Exactly!!

This parallels the gun control debate. It's rarely possible to regulate human behavior, and it's human behavior that is the very core element in all of this.

So what is really being accomplished? Posturing. Posing. "Look what we have done!" intone the regulators and politicians. "... For the Children! No less!"
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I'm not defending these regulations because I haven't seen the data, but in theory if 20 million cars got 1mpg better mileage even though they had the same habits as far as keeping their tires filled, there would still be a significant cost savings. And that's not just consumer cost, there are secondary costs that go along with these things like smog and carbon etc. Long ago people were reactionary about smog regulations but they literally worked, same with the ozone layer it literally worked and recovered, same with low flow toilets and bath fixtures it saved a lot of water.
 
RustVendor said:
I mean you think they are out to get you, that the elections are rigged, that the EPA is a problem, but you can't actually identify or defend those positions because you don't even know why you think that except you feel like a victim. All you do is complain
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my god, are you serious with this ?
yes, these california politicians are part of the WEF agenda (shrugs). yes, california elections have been proven to be rigged. yes, the EPA's regulations have increased the cost of everything in california and needs to be rolled back and their power needs to be limited. i have identified all of this but you seem to not be capable of grasping any of this. but it is okay because the majority are clueless about all of this. i am still not sure why you keep throwing around that we are claiming to be victims and complaining. i thought this was a forum for discussions. i mean if anyone is complaining, is it not you with your post on this topic?
 
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