M&P 2.0 better than PDP and VP9 unfortunately.

[tomrkba]

I handled the PDP today at my LGS and the trigger was really good. It is definitely better than the first version M&P M2.0 triggers.

 

[Tere_Hanges]

The triggers on all 3 of these guns are about the same. Can't really say one is better than the other; they are all really good. The ergonomics are also all comparable. The VP9 and PDP probably have a slight edge over the M&P in ergos. All three of these guns are essentially effortless to shoot well.

Objectively, the P320 has a better trigger than all three since it is essentially a SA trigger. The trigger that everyone longed for in a striker-fired pistol, and when they got what they always wanted, it turned out to be somewhat of a bad idea.

When I first saw the PDP online, I thought the slide was unnecessarily big. But after handling one in person, I see why Walther did that. It's one of the easiest slides to grip, which is a plus for me.

 

[badsushi]

The triggers on all 3 of these guns are about the same. Can't really say one is better than the other; they are all really good. The ergonomics are also all comparable. The VP9 and PDP probably have a slight edge over the M&P in ergos. All three of these guns are essentially effortless to shoot well.

Objectively, the P320 has a better trigger than all three since it is essentially a SA trigger. The trigger that everyone longed for in a striker-fired pistol, and when they got what they always wanted, it turned out to be somewhat of a bad idea.

When I first saw the PDP online, I thought the slide was unnecessarily big. But after handling one in person, I see why Walther did that. It's one of the easiest slides to grip, which is a plus for me.

Yeah I like my p320 M18 trigger, but you know I don’t really shoot anymore. Hopefully with time either a fix is released or the reports are disproven. I don’t know what to believe, but I lean more towards there really is an issue. But, I still don’t think the trigger breaks as clean as my M&P 2.0
Edit: just pulled my 320 out to dry fire, the take up is excellent, but the break is slightly spongey. Yes I’m being nit picky, but that’s the point in these comparisons.

 

[badsushi]

Boring thread. No pix

This was going to be my California carry gun, but I got distracted with other guns. This instance has the original trigger, which needs work because it glitches.

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Ok, I’ll give you a picture , just missing the VP9A1 F that I get this weekend

 

[Deleted member 11179]

So I picked up my PDP today, and a VP9 on Sunday. Comparing both triggers to my M&P 2.0 factory trigger, the M&P wins. Maybe the PDP and VP9 will get better after some shooting, but M&P is superior and cheaper. I keep buying guns thinking they will be better than the M&P, but they never are. I guess the smart thing to do is keep buying and comparing.

Might be unrelated but I picked up my new mp 2.0 during the clearance sale from turners last week, shot it the same day and it had a walking frame pin. Completely unacceptable from SW. returned it back to turners same day for it to get “repaired” or replaced by sw

 

[badsushi]

Might be unrelated but I picked up my new mp 2.0 during the clearance sale from turners last week, shot it the same day and it had a walking frame pin. Completely unacceptable from SW. returned it back to turners same day for it to get “repaired” or replaced by sw

I’ve had mine since it was added to the roster, never had a problem with it. Maybe your was built on a Friday afternoon.

 

[Deleted member 11179]

I’ve had mine since it was added to the roster, never had a problem with it. Maybe your was built on a Friday afternoon.

Seems like it. Other than that seems like a solid pistol.

 

[Soless]

Might be unrelated but I picked up my new mp 2.0 during the clearance sale from turners last week, shot it the same day and it had a walking frame pin. Completely unacceptable from SW. returned it back to turners same day for it to get “repaired” or replaced by sw

I had frame pins that I really had to beat to remove on two M&P 2.0's. I had to get replacement pins from S&W.

 

[Deleted member 11179]

I had frame pins that I really had to beat to remove on two M&P 2.0's. I had to get replacement pins from S&W.

Hmm interesting, on mine the frame hole on the left side was wallowed out and on the right side it was tight, explains why it drifted to the left. . I tested this by inserting the pin on the left vs right side

 

[Soless]

Hmm interesting, on mine the frame hole on the left side was wallowed out and on the right side it was tight, explains why it drifted to the left. . I tested this by inserting the pin on the left vs right side

Sounds like a factory defect. Hope S&W sorrs it out for you.

 

[Deleted member 16735]

Hmm interesting, on mine the frame hole on the left side was wallowed out and on the right side it was tight, explains why it drifted to the left. . I tested this by inserting the pin on the left vs right side

Yeah that doesn't sound right they are tight from the factory, almost too tight it's a pain getting the trigger pin in with the trigger return spring

 

[Deleted member 11179]

Yeah that doesn't sound right they are tight from the factory, almost too tight it's a pain getting the trigger pin in with the trigger return spring

seems like the qc was lacking. Still pissed I had to return it and now have to wait for a response on what will happen with it

 

[Deleted member 16735]

seems like the qc was lacking. Still pissed I had to return it and now have to wait for a response on what will happen with it

Good luck man they're great pistols so I hope you get it back quickly

 

[badsushi]

seems like the qc was lacking. Still pissed I had to return it and now have to wait for a response on what will happen with it

S&W has excellent warranties.

 

[jesse]

So I picked up my PDP today, and a VP9 on Sunday. Comparing both triggers to my M&P 2.0 factory trigger, the M&P wins. Maybe the PDP and VP9 will get better after some shooting, but M&P is superior and cheaper. I keep buying guns thinking they will be better than the M&P, but they never are. I guess the smart thing to do is keep buying and comparing.

So I picked up my PDP today, and a VP9 on Sunday. Comparing both triggers to my M&P 2.0 factory trigger, the M&P wins. Maybe the PDP and VP9 will get better after some shooting, but M&P is superior and cheaper. I keep buying guns thinking they will be better than the M&P, but they never are. I guess the smart thing to do is keep buying and comparing.

Best thing to do is train more on a platform of your choosing training makes you better not the trigger

 

[Tommo]

The M&P 2.0 is a very nice design, especially with the new triggers. The optics ready versions just hit the roster recently, so you can find the non OR versions on sale.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Ok, I’ll give you a picture , just missing the VP9A1 F that I get this weekend

Did you end up getting your VP9? How is it? Is the MDM still the same from the previous generation?

 

[badsushi]

Did you end up getting your VP9? How is it? Is the MDM still the same from the previous generation?

Yes, it’s great. The trigger on the VP9F is just as sweet as the M&P

 

[badsushi]

Did you end up getting your VP9? How is it? Is the MDM still the same from the previous generation?

Yes, it’s great. The trigger on the VP9F is

Best thing to do is train more on a platform of your choosing training makes you better not the trigger

I train with my carry guns, I collect what I like, and I like nice triggers. I’ve been shooting for 40 years, how much training do you have?

 

[Ron Swanson]

Yes, it’s great. The trigger on the VP9F is just as sweet as the M&P

If you didn't have either, and were going to buy one next, which would you buy and why. If the why is "I just shoot it better" then that's good enough lol.

Thinking about a future fullsize gun, one at a time, M&P 2.0 Metal that is coming out or VP9a1 F.