Mag Disconnect - do you just accept it?

[mrbieler]

Magazine disconnects are useless.

The only two pistols I own with their original magazine disconnects intact are my WWII Inglis Hi-Powers. Otherwise the few I've bought with them have had the parts removed.

 

[boltstop]

Mag disconnects are a solution to a non-existant problem. The add unnecessary complexity and additional failure points. They serve no useful purpose whatsoever.

 

[Angrysnarf]

Nope

 

[Darqhelmet]

Mag disconnects are a solution to a non-existant problem. The add unnecessary complexity and additional failure points. They serve no useful purpose whatsoever.

It’s a way to keep guns off the roster.

 

[RocketF22]

Probably showing clear.

It probably matters more in a defensive scenario more than many others tbh. You can unknowingly bump the mag release IWB (especially if your holster doesn't fully protect the mag release, you run an extended mag release for one handed manipulations, etc.) or it can get hit in an entanglement/gun grab situation. If the mag is unseated or dropped you've got the round in the chamber (hopefully) to solve the problem or until you can recover the matter/reload if you carry a spare.

I feel like this argument about a gun grab can go either way actually. If said attacker gets hold of your gun in a scuffle and theres one in the chamber and mag out, they can't shoot you with your own gun. I think (not 100% sure) that was the reasoning behind cali putting the MD in. I think an officer had his gun taken and shot with it. Still doesnt make sense since PD doesnt have Mag Disconnects.

Just my cents

 

[MattB]

The only pistols I own with mag disconnects are S&W 3rd Gens that were all pretty much built that way regardless of where they were sold.

 

[mrbieler]

I think (not 100% sure) that was the reasoning behind cali putting the MD in.

The reasoning was the roster. Adding the disconnect was a simple way of reducing the roster and handgun availability in California. Forcing manufacturers to redesign and reapply for roster spots.

Saying it was "for the children" is simplistic noise.

 

[Hypnotiq24]

so in competition you would need to load an empty mag when you show clear? i was planning on using my pdp also for my first uspsa match but now i need to get the mag disconnect

 

[RustVendor]

so in competition you would need to load an empty mag when you show clear? i was planning on using my pdp also for my first uspsa match but now i need to get the mag disconnect

you have to unload and show clear, then insert an empty mag so you can pull the trigger before you can holster and clear the range. Definitely take it out because it will be confusing enough to do it right without the empty magazine process.

 

[Hypnotiq24]

you have to unload and show clear, then insert an empty mag so you can pull the trigger before you can holster and clear the range. Definitely take it out because it will be confusing enough to do it right without the empty magazine process.

any reliable gunsmiths in sgv area that you guys would recommend?

 

[RocketF22]

The reasoning was the roster. Adding the disconnect was a simple way of reducing the roster and handgun availability in California. Forcing manufacturers to redesign and reapply for roster spots.

Saying it was "for the children" is simplistic noise.

Uhm, you're taking what I said out of context. That's not at all what I said. Also, not in favor of the MD. Just saying what I think I remember the reason being. The roster was already in effect before the MD became a thing (im pretty sure, not certain)

 

[mountain_yokai]

so in competition you would need to load an empty mag when you show clear? i was planning on using my pdp also for my first uspsa match but now i need to get the mag disconnect

Until I remove it, my plan is to keep an empty mag in my back pocket for competition... we'll see how it goes ...but it'll probably get removed before I shoot a competition again

 

[mrbieler]

Uhm, you're taking what I said out of context. That's not at all what I said. Also, not in favor of the MD. Just saying what I think I remember the reason being. The roster was already in effect before the MD became a thing (im pretty sure, not certain)

I didn't say you were in favor and didn't say your assumption was right. The roster was in place long before they added the MD requirement. The disconnect is sold to folks as a safety device but it's really just an added layer to the roster. Old models that companies pay fees to remain listed are grandfathered as long as they pay the listing fee, but anything new has to have the MD and lCI designed in. "California only" versions. Just an added burden on the manufacturer.

 

[lactoast]

so in competition you would need to load an empty mag when you show clear? i was planning on using my pdp also for my first uspsa match but now i need to get the mag disconnect

You should make sure to check with the RSO that you have a mag disconnect, and ask them how they want you to handle it. I’ve seen some take over to clear the gun and insert an empty mag for hammer down, but that might’ve also been because the competitor was new.

 

[AR15barrels]

any reliable gunsmiths in sgv area that you guys would recommend?

I do them in Van Nuys which is the next valley west of the SGV.
Order the plug and I can do the teardown and reassembly without the mag disconnect but with the plug instead.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/800401392998

 

[Hypnotiq24]

I do them in Van Nuys which is the next valley west of the SGV.
Order the plug and I can do the teardown and reassembly without the mag disconnect but with the plug instead.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/800401392998

how much?

 

[Sheepdog1968]

I have just accepted it. In the Sig P226 lineup, when Sig changed from the short to long extractor that forced Sig to put an LCI and mag disconnect on new P226 models shown in CA. I didn’t want that on my P226 so I just kept looking for a used one without. Wasn’t too hard to find and paid $600 for it and a local gun store.

 

[Gravel]

I hate that the CA gov has injected itself into weapons design, and I would not buy anything with a mag disconnect if it wasn’t required.

However, in order to understand what I recently bought, who’s had functional failures with a MD? What failed and how?

 

[Skilly]

Pretty easy. Obviously you just look down the barrel

I mean...I still prefer desk pops.

 

[Joker67]

I own 9 pistols. The only one with a mag disco is a Browning Buckmark. Not interested in buying any with it.