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For real. 10mm is an internet cartridge. Lots of guys claim they are gonna carry it in case a bear attacks them or something dumb like that. The reality is most people won't every buy one.
I owned a 10mm. Found no use for it other than an expensive range toy. Got rid of it a few months later
 
For real. 10mm is an internet cartridge. Lots of guys claim they are gonna carry it in case a bear attacks them or something dumb like that. The reality is most people won't every buy one.

It's a meme caliber now, maybe a niche caliber at best.
 
The shadow system Axio looks dope AF

I would be down for an Axio with the 4lb trigger. I like what they did with the trigger using the PDP as bench mark. The longer slide travel looks interesting as well.

I hope this gets on the roster and the LCI is on the extractor.
 
I would be down for an Axio with the 4lb trigger. I like what they did with the trigger using the PDP as bench mark. The longer slide travel looks interesting as well.

I hope this gets on the roster and the LCI is on the extractor.
$2k is a bit tough to swallow though
 
$2k is a bit tough to swallow though

It's a matter of perspective for me. If I'm stepping up from a sub $600-$700 striker fired gun then yeah, it's way too much but if I see it as an alternative to a 2011 then it's not too bad at all. Let's say I carry a Staccato HD line but want something striker fired instead.

I prefer hammer fired guns, the 2011's, CZ's and the Sigs but aside from the 2011's the rest don't really have a great holster support. It's hit and miss. If this Axio performs as well as they say and retains the support of Glock holsters then it's a winner for me.

Edit : I'm perhaps more interested in their new trigger system than the Axio it self.
 
It's a matter of perspective for me. If I'm stepping up from a sub $600-$700 striker fired gun then yeah, it's way too much but if I see it as an alternative to a 2011 then it's not too bad at all. Let's say I carry a Staccato HD line but want something striker fired instead.

I prefer hammer fired guns, the 2011's, CZ's and the Sigs but aside from the 2011's the rest don't really have a great holster support. It's hit and miss. If this Axio performs as well as they say and retains the support of Glock holsters then it's a winner for me.

Edit : I'm perhaps more interested in their new trigger system than the Axio it self.
Great points all around. And as you say, if it’s all it’s cut up to be, and it’s good to go right out of the box, then my initial sticker shock is overblown.
 
Guys wanting a 10mm crack me up when they are all going to reload it down to 40S&W ballistics anyway. LOL! And dont say you arent cause no one believes it. Ha!

It's pointless to do that unless the person is a new shooter and you're working them up. Otherwise, just shoot 9mm.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Staccatos shouldn't cost more than $1,000?

I get all excited when I see one but then I pick it up. The gun feels wonky and I put it back down.
 
For real. 10mm is an internet cartridge. Lots of guys claim they are gonna carry it in case a bear attacks them or something dumb like that. The reality is most people won't every buy one.

It's always funny when some of those same people claim 357 Magnum is too light for bear.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Staccatos shouldn't cost more than $1,000?

I get all excited when I see one but then I pick it up. The gun feels wonky and I put it back down.

Sir, it’s 2026, a time when medium fries at McDonalds cost $4.39

If a Staccato should not be more than $1000 how much should a Glock or M&P be?
 
Sir, it’s 2026, a time when medium fries at McDonalds cost $4.39

If a Staccato should not be more than $1000 how much should a Glock or M&P be?
The Glock market in CA is surreal. Spending enough for a decent 1911 or a really nice Beretta and ending with a used Glock is wild.
 
For real. 10mm is an internet cartridge. Lots of guys claim they are gonna carry it in case a bear attacks them or something dumb like that. The reality is most people won't every buy one.
F- the bear am worried about the moose when we visit family up north. Glock 20 and M&P 45 Gen 1 I converted to take Gen 2 10mm slide
 
The Glock market in CA is surreal. Spending enough for a decent 1911 or a really nice Beretta and ending with a used Glock is wild.

I understand the desire for simplicity though. I go out of my way to get third party Glock frames because I want the simplicity and the ecosystem I just don’t want the OEM frame. I want my tool to be easy to use.

On the other hand, I’m still most proficient with 2011’s and love shooting them the most.
 
Sir, it’s 2026, a time when medium fries at McDonalds cost $4.39

If a Staccato should not be more than $1000 how much should a Glock or M&P be?
Gaston originally wanted to sell the Glock 17 for $300 but his sales manager said no one would want to buy it because they’d assume it’s some cheap Eastern European junk, so $500 would sell better.

With all the advancements in manufacturing, computing, what have you, gun prices should all be much lower across the board.

The big thing is how much QA is happening. If they’re individually testing each part and have a high rejection rate, that’d explain the higher cost, though justifying it might be a stretch.
 
Gaston originally wanted to sell the Glock 17 for $300 but his sales manager said no one would want to buy it because they’d assume it’s some cheap Eastern European junk, so $500 would sell better.

With all the advancements in manufacturing, computing, what have you, gun prices should all be much lower across the board.

The big thing is how much QA is happening. If they’re individually testing each part and have a high rejection rate, that’d explain the higher cost, though justifying it might be a stretch.
That's a fair point. The inflation adjusted value of $300 and $500 USD from 1982 (Glocks release) to today is $1000 and $1650, respectively.
 
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