Stacatto P4 made the roster

[vacateCA]

LMFAO. You might want look up the meaning of the words you use so you dont face plant everytime you attempt to insult someone.

Funny how one letter changed everything, huh?

 

[painkiller]

You call it texas freedom until we see the full line up,then again the 10 rd mag thing is there as well

 

[Staccato_Actual]

Im guessing you work for Staccato?

I do. I've got a post over on the intro thread for details.

 

[Staccato_Actual]

First of all, big props to bringing the gun to the CA market.

I noticed on the website it says:

Does this mean there really is no way to remove the mag disconnect and that it's integral to something, or is this more of a legal disclaimer needed to appease the CADOJ?

The wording on the website is actually referring to the magazine release button itself, not the disconnect safety feature. On the non-CA-compliant HD's, the mag release can be switched to run right or left handed. On the CA-specific P4, the mag release is currently right-hand only. But we are actively working on a left-hand version.

The disconnect safety cannot be removed, as far as I'm aware.

 

[Staccato_Actual]

What package are we getting for $2699, the standard or preferred

All CA guns will be Preferred Package. DLC barrel, Trijicon front sight.

 

[Staccato_Actual]

please add this HD XC to the roster too lol

We are definitely looking at other CA-compliant models in the future.

 

[Gryff]

Ive never seen anyone so rustled that a high quality pistol was added to the roster. Sheesh.

Staccatos aren't that high of quality. They're good. Probably $1500 worth of good. But "tactical" 2011s are the current hotness, so people are willing to pay silly prices for them.

 

[FNfan]

Staccatos aren't that high of quality. They're good. Probably $1500 worth of good. But "tactical" 2011s are the current hotness, so people are willing to pay silly prices for them.

Theyre easily better than pretty much everything we can get here.

 

[21SF 2.0]

Theyre easily better than pretty much everything we can get here.

Atlas?

 

[FNfan]

Atlas?

I really thought “pretty much everything we can get here” covered it well enough but apparently not.

Also, I dont think the questionable legality of “single shot exemption” with the Atlas/Platypus etc is really comparable to legitimately rostered offerings. Some will have no issues with that, some could have severe issues with it.

 

[21SF 2.0]

I really thought “pretty much everything we can get here” covered it well enough but apparently not.

Also, I dont think the questionable legality of “single shot exemption” with the Atlas/Platypus etc is really comparable to legitimately rostered offerings. Some will have no issues with that, some could have severe issues with it.

How many cases of “issues” are there?

 

[twentysevenone]

The wording on the website is actually referring to the magazine release button itself, not the disconnect safety feature. On the non-CA-compliant HD's, the mag release can be switched to run right or left handed. On the CA-specific P4, the mag release is currently right-hand only. But we are actively working on a left-hand version.

The disconnect safety cannot be removed, as far as I'm aware.

When the left handed version is available, would we be able to swap it into our existing gun?

 

[FNfan]

How many cases of “issues” are there?

Likely none Id imagine, but as with a lot of things some folks wont want to risk it. To go back to the original point, its pretty goofy to compare a ~$2500 gun to a~$5800+ one in the Atlas. No one said theyre the best things made, I said they were better than basically anything available here.

 

[21SF 2.0]

Likely none Id imagine, but as with a lot of things some folks wont want to risk it. To go back to the original point, its pretty goofy to compare a ~$2500 gun to a~$5800+ one in the Atlas. No one said theyre the best things made, I said they were better than basically anything available here.

They aren’t though, you can get better with SSE/PPT.

 

[FNfan]

They aren’t though, you can get better with SSE/PPT.

Not the same and not in the same price range. Also, its a subjective opinion. We’ll agree to disagree.

 

[21SF 2.0]

Not the same and not in the same price range. Also, its a subjective opinion. We’ll agree to disagree.

No, you said “easily better than anything we can get” which is technically subjective but also false lol. Agree to agree

 

[21SF 2.0]

Not to interject in your conversation, but I plan to get one for my ccw. I could get an SSE platypus instead, but I don't want to deal with the pawnshop trick or whatever on a gun I'm gonna put on my permit. I own many SSE guns, but I don't personally feel comfortable with having to go through legal shenanigans for my carry gun.

Depends on IA, most don’t care if it’s on the roster or not. My IA didn’t even check my pistols. Carrying a platypus would be a PIA but total chad move lol

 

[21SF 2.0]

It’s not just a matter of on the roster or off the roster. You took a “SSE” and modified it to be semi-auto. That is a gray area at best and illegal at worst. Hence my point you keep ignorantly trying to argue with.

you said “anything we can get here”… even if we exclude SSE, what about PPT? I’m the ignorant one lol.

The only thing it’s the best at is masquerading as a 2011.

 

[FNfan]

you said “anything we can get here”… even if we exclude SSE, what about PPT? I’m the ignorant one lol.

Do you lick windows? You keep conveniently leaving out the “pretty much” part. There are very few off roster for PPT of the same $ that are better, and again that is subjective. Off the top of my head Id take a CZ S2C over the HD though.

 

[21SF 2.0]

Do you lick windows? You keep conveniently leaving out the “pretty much” part. There are very few off roster for PPT of the same $ that are better, and again that is subjective. Off the top of my head Id take a CZ S2C over the HD though.

Sometimes.
You’re adding stipulations after the fact, roster, price etc.