Experience with Users/Buyers on Here Ghosting

[franky694]

Can anyone explain to me the psychology of lowballers. To me they don't seem like serious buyers. Just trying to shoot their shot and score significant concessions and discounts. The offers I have are extremely unreasonable.

It’s like finding an item on clearance. You weren’t exactly looking to buy something but it’s so cheap you’d be stupid not to buy it. It’s consumerism

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

Well often sellers don’t respond lol. But if they do and if it’s something I really want, I’ll try to offer more. It’s not something I want but just looking for a good deal, I’ll let them know that was my final offering price and if they ever need to sell it, they can count on my offer anytime.

That’s good you respond; not just leave the convo.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

People who never learned this probably can't be taught and likely wouldn't be open to learning.

You think they will be that closed off?

 

[vplaza96]

I've had my fair share of inquiries with low offers, I respond saying 'thanks, but I can't go that low', then nothing. A few from brand new accounts, so probably suspicious to begin with.

If you're not interested, at least show some common courtesy and reply to close the loop.

 

[BobGBA]

It's the garage sale mentality.

When something's worth $10 and you're selling it for $2, you'll get a boatload of 25 cent offers.

 

[shooterMcGavin]

Once someone offers you a low price and you respond with no, shouldn’t that be the end of it? Do you really want to deal with somebody who’s trying to get an extreme discount with whole back-and-forth what’s the lowest you’ll take? Can you hold it for a week?

 

[Plenty_Pack_556]

Allow thread crapping, and thread chat like gafs, and it may lead to less lowballers and flakers in classifieds.

It also shows which users may be the lowballers/flakers to other users.

Also it may show which user may be a scalper/flipper to other users.

 

[BobGBA]

Once someone offers you a low price and you respond with no, shouldn’t that be the end of it? Do you really want to deal with somebody who’s trying to get an extreme discount with whole back-and-forth what’s the lowest you’ll take?

Usually, I try not to respond more than once.

However, I strayed from my normal practice and here's what happened this week.
Seller: Will you take $X less?
Me: No.
Seller: Will you take $.5X less?
Me: The price is firm.
Seller: Okay, can we meet on Saturday?
Me: Sure.

I called the buyer and he's coming a long ways today get it, so we'll see how it goes.

 

[GoldensRule]

Maybe we need a "what's it worth"? private channel for sellers to get opinions on pricing?

This . Seller's listen up, just because you dumped $2,000 into "upgrading" a $1,200 sidearm doesn't mean it's worth that much to anyone else. You are selling used weapons, accessories and or old ammunition, you are not a retailer and you are not selling a collectable or rare commodity.

As for buyers, if you start a conversation, finish it. Decided you're not interested any longer, send the seller a note explaining your thinking and thank them for their time. If the seller says "no low ballers" whatever that means, if their price is too high just move along, there will be another identical item in the not too distant future. If you make a deal, follow through with it, if for some reason you can't consummate the deal, send the seller a note and explain yourself. Treat people the way you would want to be treated.

Lastly, make your best offer, if the seller declines, no hard feelings, thank them and tell them to think about it. I can't tell you how many times a seller has come back to me after initially saying no and changing their answer to yes.

 

[GoldensRule]

So you would think that out of 37,000 members there must be at least 20 women even if some of those are just buying for their significant others.

If you were a woman, would you really want to hang out with us?

 

[GoldensRule]

Can anyone explain to me the psychology of lowballers. To me they don't seem like serious buyers. Just trying to shoot their shot and score significant concessions and discounts. The offers I have are extremely unreasonable.

It depends on what you call a "low baller". I offer people what an item is worth to me. Give me an example of a low baller, what were you selling and for how much and what did the LB offer you?

 

[Wolkenflieger]

You think they will be that closed off?

Yes.

There are some things if not learned early-on won't easily be learned later, like social graces, manners, logic, critical-thinking, and even spelling. People become calcified in their habits and any attempt to suggest improvement is seen as a hostile incursion.

The smart exceptions out there welcome advice, but about manners? Saying, "Let me teach you some manners" is code for fighting for many.

Why is it that so many people react with hostility when we try to offer valid spelling correction? Same thing, only far more mundane. Manners is a much lower-level skill, as in much more fundamental to one's character and thought process.

Think about the mindset of a ghoster. They don't care about social graces, closure, communication, etc. Ghosting people who approach disrespectfully is valid, such a ghosting disrespectful lowballers.

I would never ghost someone who is making sincere and polite offers, even if their offer is too low. Part of the issue with lowballers is their reckless, aggressive, and/or disrespectful approach. They think they're being efficient, but some won't want to deal with that kind of personality.

Hell, isn't this why most of us refrain from cursing when first meeting someone? Even a period at the end of a word can be seen as rude, or typing in all caps.

Example, consider the difference between these responses:

No.
no
NO
NO!
No, thank you.

Each will evoke different subtexts or even hostility, especially in Gen-Z who are more sensitive to the full stop.

In my view, ghosting polite communication is a character defect, a trait I see in people who view others as impediments or objects of opportunity. If we observe criminals, they treat people as objects too.

Social graces are a way to quickly build rapport and trust, and some people we meet become friends.

 

[Plenty_Pack_556]

Hell, isn't this why most of us refrain from cursing when first meeting someone? Even a period at the end of a word can be seen as rude, or typing jn all caps.

"typing IN all caps." FIFY.

 

[Deleted member 34131]

It’s the luxury of being behind a screen and communicating without repercussions of those with poor manners/etiquette.

 

[Wolkenflieger]

"typing IN all caps." FIFY.

Thanks!

 

[Wolkenflieger]

It’s the luxury of being behind a screen and communicating without repercussions of those with poor manners/etiquette.

Yep, there was a time when poor manners had real consequences, and they still do. Driving without manners quickly reveals the ground truth about us social primates.

 

[ikeo1]

If you were a woman, would you really want to hang out with us?

They are definitely in the audience. 10-15% , this is one reason to keep things less antagonizing since who would want to join in. Sometimes they do and you don’t know too. We have quite a few supporters out there, they are quite pleasant too.

 

[ikeo1]

I almost want to have a low ball shamer button… if they get 10 low ball remarks, they get a low baller badge

 

[shooterMcGavin]

I’m just gonna change my name to
señor low Baller so people know I mean business

 

[Plenty_Pack_556]

What is a lowball?
Someone selling a $500 gun for $1000, and if the buyer offers $500. Is that lowball or being real?