News 43x CA Edition on Roster

[JamMan1213]

"I just wish Glock would put the coyote colored pistols on the roster."
+1
I'd buy one in a heart beat!

 

[HarleyLowRiderST]

Has there been any actual reliability issues with any of the LCIs on any gun?

Not that I ever read about and if there were, you would need data of the LCI version vs non LCI on the same gun, same ammo, same round count etc. One offs with questionable maintenance, use case etc doesn't mean all LCI will get you killed.

These LCI discussions about failure or not trusting my life crack me up. There are guys carrying HEAVILY modified guns with everything from custom 2 lb triggers, custom springs, barrels, comps, aftermarket slides, internals, etc. that have more potential to fail than any LCI. (In my humble opinion).

In a SHTF or CCW scenario, I will take a stock Glock (with or without an LCI) over nearly every other mfg.

 

[Gawernator]

NO THANK YOU!!! I will absolutely never take any risks on my life with any (top california compliant LCI locations) (EXTRA FAILURE POINT GARBAGE LCI) Always stick to the standard and never trust the california compliant models. I have seen plenty of failures . NO THANK YOU!!!

Glock 43X CA (California Compliant) model, the specialized California Department of Justice (DOJ) required Loaded Chamber Indicator (LCI) is located on the top of the slide,
Unlike standard, factory Glock models where the extractor claw acts as a subtle visual/tactile indicator, the CA-compliant model features a prominent, mechanical indicator on top of the slide to meet strict state-mandated safety visibility guidelines
obtrusive indicator.
• The Problem: This top-mounted, spring-loaded arm physically pushes down on the rim of the chambered casing. Heavy carbon fouling, debris, or a stiff factory LCI spring creating excessive friction. This drag slows down the slide's cycling speed or prevents a fresh round from fully sliding up under the extractor claw, causing failures to battery (the slide not closing all the way).

Crazy how your AI “knows” the exact design of the gun that hasn’t been publicly released or announced in any way

 

[Gawernator]

Not that I ever read about and if there were, you would need data of the LCI version vs non LCI on the same gun, same ammo, same round count etc. One offs with questionable maintenance, use case etc doesn't mean all LCI will get you killed.

These LCI discussions about failure or not trusting my life crack me up. There are guys carrying HEAVILY modified guns with everything from custom 2 lb triggers, custom springs, barrels, comps, aftermarket slides, internals, etc. that have more potential to fail than any LCI. (In my humble opinion).

In a SHTF or CCW scenario, I will take a stock Glock (with or without an LCI) over nearly every other mfg.

That’s why I like my HK and Walther. Really great triggers out of the box and I don’t need to mod anything really. Just runs. The irony that the LCI is an issue and not the aftermarket barrel and slide and springs is funny lol

 

[Shellbackitup]

Has there been any actual reliability issues with any of the LCIs on any gun?

I too would be very interested to hear of any LCI/CLI failures or issues seen in the field or talked about on other forums, YouTube, etc.

The only LCI issue I've ever seen personally was the LCI on my CZ-97 flew off at the range on the first trip (pre-cajunization)

That however was an assembly issue (torque or thread lock issue) and had nothing to do with the function or reliability of the gun.

I think this concern is very similar to the argument of revolvers vs semi-autos, that revolvers are inherently more reliable due to fewer points of potential failure.

Adding a CLI/LCI presents a potential point of failure.

Some folks won't trust their lives with anything but a revolver, or maybe a 1911.

Seems like some folks won't trust their lives with a gun with a CLI/LCI. New to me, but I can understand where they are coming from logically even if I don't come to the same conclusion.

Everyone has their own tolerance for risk and where it can be applied.

Any other LCI/CLI issues anyone has seen?

 

[Shellbackitup]

Not that I ever read about and if there were, you would need data of the LCI version vs non LCI on the same gun, same ammo, same round count etc. One offs with questionable maintenance, use case etc doesn't mean all LCI will get you killed.

These LCI discussions about failure or not trusting my life crack me up. There are guys carrying HEAVILY modified guns with everything from custom 2 lb triggers, custom springs, barrels, comps, aftermarket slides, internals, etc. that have more potential to fail than any LCI. (In my humble opinion).

In a SHTF or CCW scenario, I will take a stock Glock (with or without an LCI) over nearly every other mfg.

I thought it was really interesting watching interviews with the guy who shot at the mass shooter in Idaho in August.

He had multiple malfunctions with his silenced 5.7 rig that he CCW's. Don't remember if he mentions it in the shorter interview or only the longer one on the Garand Thumb channel

Made me wonder why you would CCW a silenced gun, when that dramatically increases the risks of malfunctions.

Also made me take a look at my own firearms and what work I had done on them, and how reliable they might be.

Risk assessment is always a great introspective exercise.

 

[franky694]

1000? That’s a single range trip get back to us at 7000 rounds

7000? thats just barely breaking it in. gotta get to the 20,000 to even have a valid conclusion.

/s

 

[HarleyLowRiderST]

I thought it was really interesting watching interviews with the guy who shot at the mass shooter in Idaho in August.

He had multiple malfunctions with his silenced 5.7 rig that he CCW's. Don't remember if he mentions it in the shorter interview or only the longer one on the Garand Thumb channel

I recalled that as well. Kudos to that dude, but a silencer on a CCW gun seemed interesting. Lol

We are all free to outfit our CCW guns as we see fit. I personally leave all 3 of CCW guns bone stock. When I bought my very first handgun Springfield Armory XD9 with the Grip Safety, I heard the same comments. "That thing is gonna get you killed" Lol Thousands of rounds later I still have that gun (sentimental now as others have replaced it) that I would not hesitate to use in HD or CCW. And it's the OD Green version so extra accurate. Lol

 

[pancakes]

7000? thats just barely breaking it in. gotta get to the 20,000 to even have a valid conclusion.

/s

That’s like 2 months of shooting for me.

 

[Jimi Jah]

1000 for a 43x will easily sell. Be that a 43x is coming is as good as ting in your hand. They are not going to be available till next year.

I'd wait for those "thrill is gone" used sellers. A grand for a plastic 9mm?

 

[Gawernator]

I too would be very interested to hear of any LCI/CLI failures or issues seen in the field or talked about on other forums, YouTube, etc.

The only LCI issue I've ever seen personally was the LCI on my CZ-97 flew off at the range on the first trip (pre-cajunization)

That however was an assembly issue (torque or thread lock issue) and had nothing to do with the function or reliability of the gun.

I think this concern is very similar to the argument of revolvers vs semi-autos, that revolvers are inherently more reliable due to fewer points of potential failure.

Adding a CLI/LCI presents a potential point of failure.

Some folks won't trust their lives with anything but a revolver, or maybe a 1911.

Seems like some folks won't trust their lives with a gun with a CLI/LCI. New to me, but I can understand where they are coming from logically even if I don't come to the same conclusion.

Everyone has their own tolerance for risk and where it can be applied.

Any other LCI/CLI issues anyone has seen?

Never

 

[RustVendor]

I too would be very interested to hear of any LCI/CLI failures or issues seen in the field or talked about on other forums, YouTube, etc.

The only LCI issue I've ever seen personally was the LCI on my CZ-97 flew off at the range on the first trip (pre-cajunization)

That however was an assembly issue (torque or thread lock issue) and had nothing to do with the function or reliability of the gun.

I think this concern is very similar to the argument of revolvers vs semi-autos, that revolvers are inherently more reliable due to fewer points of potential failure.

Adding a CLI/LCI presents a potential point of failure.

Some folks won't trust their lives with anything but a revolver, or maybe a 1911.

Seems like some folks won't trust their lives with a gun with a CLI/LCI. New to me, but I can understand where they are coming from logically even if I don't come to the same conclusion.

Everyone has their own tolerance for risk and where it can be applied.

Any other LCI/CLI issues anyone has seen?

That just shows thats it's all an emotional argument, revolvers and especially 1911s are definitely not more reliable than modern duty pistols. most of the LCIs are very simple. do I want it there? No. But I don't think it affects the function or reliability. There are some magazine disconnects that do though like the p226 can fail.

 

[ClaiborneTC]

Charging more than double MSRP for a handgun should be shamed into oblivion. The number of people who think not having an LCI/Mag disconnect is worth adding $600-$800 more than what the gun is worth is insane. I've had no issues with any of mine, and most of them are very easy to remove if you don't want them. The off-roster market here is full of price-gouging scumbags and people abusing their exemption status. I get it, though, supply and demand, blah-blah-blah.

 

[franky694]

Charging more than double MSRP for a handgun should be shamed into oblivion. The number of people who think not having an LCI/Mag disconnect is worth adding $600-$800 more than what the gun is worth is insane. I've had no issues with any of mine, and most of them are very easy to remove if you don't want them. The off-roster market here is full of price-gouging scumbags and people abusing their exemption status. I get it, though, supply and demand, blah-blah-blah.

Supply and demand. You can get upset at those selling for 2x the price but there’s also the ones that will pay for it. Having an on roster option will introduce an equivalent product that will increase supply and thus reduce price. However, as long as there is a supply restriction(aka the roster), the prices will be higher for things not available here at retail.

 

[painkiller]

I hear this pig has a manual thumb safety

 

[Maaartin]

Supply and demand. You can get upset at those selling for 2x the price but there’s also the ones that will pay for it. Having an on roster option will introduce an equivalent product that will increase supply and thus reduce price. However, as long as there is a supply restriction(aka the roster), the prices will be higher for things not available here at retail.

Prices for unmodified G17 and G19 Gen3 will likely stay up I believe, because they are the only option for someone who wants an original glock design that doesn’t have extra crap and hasn’t been modified to accommodate removing the extra crap.

The 43X is also not the tool of choice for anything other than CCW.
Lots of people want the full size G17 or at least a G19.

I think G17/G19 Gen3 will maintain a premium sticker in CA for the next 3 years, if not more.

 

[bcj68]

I hear this pig has a manual thumb safety

I'm betting not. The VP9's, Echelon, Hellcat and Rost Martin do not. They'll call the dingus their manual safety and call it good.

If it does the manual safety ala the Glock 19X military pistol, it should be easily out of the way.

 

[ClaiborneTC]

Supply and demand. You can get upset at those selling for 2x the price but there’s also the ones that will pay for it. Having an on roster option will introduce an equivalent product that will increase supply and thus reduce price. However, as long as there is a supply restriction(aka the roster), the prices will be higher for things not available here at retail.

Like the last sentence of my comment says.

 

[devenbooth]

Giant lci and mag disconnect?

 

[five.five-six]

Can I just buy a frame now for a DIY build?