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GLocks and CZs are over rated.

Craftsmanship beats “product” every time.

All this talk about overpriced and overrated Tupperware guns thrown together by cheap unskilled labor that has never fired a gun reminds me of what is good in life. No gun made from recycled trash should ever cost more than $279. I have dozens of meltable guns in my safe, but only the few guns made from steel matter.

Save a little more and buy an heirloom that your grandchildren will take pride in.

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Craftsmanship beats “product” every time.

All this talk about overpriced and overrated Tupperware guns thrown together by cheap unskilled labor that has never fired a gun reminds me of what is good in life. No gun made from recycled trash should ever cost more than $279. I have dozens of meltable guns in my safe, but only the few guns made from steel matter.

Save a little more and buy an heirloom that your grandchildren will take pride in.

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I mean ultimately guns are just some machined parts slapped together. I highly doubt HK workers are "unskilled". The Nighthawk looks nice but won't really outperform a $450 RIA 1911 at the end of the day by a meaningful amount
 
I mean ultimately guns are just some machined parts slapped together. I highly doubt HK workers are "unskilled". The Nighthawk looks nice but won't really outperform a $450 RIA 1911 at the end of the day by a meaningful amount
I really feel like that's like saying that a double-wide is also a house and won't outperform a stick-built house. They both do similar things but long term they will have vastly different level of function and longevity.
 
I really feel like that's like saying that a double-wide is also a house and won't outperform a stick-built house. They both do similar things but long term they will have vastly different level of function and longevity.
Good point, the RIA will probably outlast the other 1911 LOL. Shockingly reliable, those ol filipinos and their Colt tooling
 
Good point, the RIA will probably outlast the other 1911 LOL. Shockingly reliable, those ol filipinos and their Colt tooling
if you don't drive a 1991 toyota tercel then this conversation is stupid. The gun just literally working isn't the only criteria.
 
if you don't drive a 1991 toyota tercel then this conversation is stupid
I'm a HK fanboy and I have a 24 VW Tiguan, 17 VW Golf and a E-350 lol. Just saying the RIA are crazy good value, they're reliable and accurate but cheap af
 
I'm a HK fanboy and I have a 24 VW Tiguan, 17 VW Golf and a E-350 lol. Just saying the RIA are crazy good value, they're reliable and accurate but cheap af
See how the bare minimum is often not as fun?
 
All that said if RIA had some of their more interesting guns on the roster I would F- with them, there's a time and a place. But if given the choice i.want the nighthawk
 
See how the bare minimum is often not as fun?
Nah just pointing out how the "$279 tupperware guns" absolutely dunk on the overpriced 1911. QC issues when for the 1-2k range you can get a Sig 1911 that out performs it with better quality control
 
Then my 2005 crv dunks on your 24 VW
in this case the 05 CRV (HK VP9, P30, VP9CC etc) is really a 911 turbo. The entire comment was stupid bordering on ragebait and I was just trolling him back
 
Then my 2005 crv dunks on your 24 VW
also this is an extremely retarded example/analogy if you use your brain for a few seconds, the technology gains in a new car are massive over a 21 year old car, while a 1911 made 50 years ago is the same as one made today. Sorry, but think critically instead of just making dumb comments.

A better analogy would be paying $100,000 for a 2005 Porsche 911 base model (5k Nighthawk) while the other guy pays $35,000 for a 2026 Porsche 911 GT3 RS ($800 HK). Then, claim it is an heirloom. LOL.
 
I won’t disagree with anything that’s been said, but I have gotten some great off roster deals on here from LEO. I won’t pay off roster pricing and didn’t have to.
 
I won’t disagree with anything that’s been said, but I have gotten some great off roster deals on here from LEO. I won’t pay off roster pricing and didn’t have to.


There are definitely some legit Leo out there who have off roster guns, shot them and got their fun out of them, and then are kind enough to pass them on through a PPT so that somebody else can enjoy it while charging a reasonable price for it at the same time.
 
Everyone who competes in this nation uses a Shadow 2. These are the best shooters in this country. The Echelon is nowhere to be found.

That should tell you something.
 
Everyone who competes in this nation uses a Shadow 2. These are the best shooters in this country. The Echelon is nowhere to be found.

That should tell you something.
Makes sense being designed specifically for competition
 
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